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What should be in butter? (hackertalks.com)
submitted 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

I looked at my butter today, the ingredients are:

  • butter oil
  • milk powder

What the hell is butter oil? I tried googling it, but I get VERY contradictory results, nothing from a reputable source I could find.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 weeks ago

Checking the ones that I usually buy the ingredients are:

  • Butter

Or, if I go for salted versions:

  • Butter
  • Salt
[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago

Thats not Butter

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think it's illegal, at least in Europe, to call something butter when its not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

You're right and i love it. Customers shouldn't be taken for absolute numbnuts.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Butter oil is, in my understanding, the fats from butter after everything else has been removed. In that sense it's not unlike clarified butter, but probably made with a centrifuge rather than heat. Adding milk powder (and presumably some water) sounds like basically adding back in what got removed to make the butter oil. I would hazard a guess that this is done because both butter oil and milk powder separately have far longer shelf lives than butter does

So I think that it's basically the same components as regular butter, they've just been separated out and then recombined. I have no idea if this does anything to the flavour

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Might also be to get a consistent product , fat percentages probably vary, by taking it apart and putting always the same amounts together again they can always make it taste the same. I believe they do the same with orange juice

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Just start making your own. It's actually really really easy.

Required equipment:
Big mixing bowl
Electric mixer

Required ingredients:
Extra thick double cream/whipping cream

Optional ingredients:
Salt
Garlic
Wild garlic
Insert herb here

Process:

  1. place cream in bowl.
  2. whip until it separates, folding the chunks back in and stop when there's only butter and
  3. decant newly made buttermilk.
  4. wash butter to remove buttermilk by filling bowl part way with cold water and just squeezing the butter. Switch water and wash until no visible milkyness comes out of the butter.
  5. add extras by folding or blending it through the butter.
  6. store any butter you're not likely to use within a few days in the freezer, I like to portion it out into 100g bits, so I know I won't be wasting any of it.

There, now you'll never have to wonder what your butter is made from again!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Salt is not an optional ingredient.

Unsalted butter is a crime against cuisine.

Thank you for self-reporting, criminal. Please stand by, the butter police will arrive shortly.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would like to say that while this is clearly made in jest, unsalted butter is a requirement for some really great recipes, and also some people are on say a low sodium diet. I put it as optional, because I'm a mature person and don't yuck other people's yum.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I use unsalted butter almost exclusively so I can more easily control the salt content of my dishes

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Why do people even combine butter and salt? Why not keep them separate, I think every kitchen I've ever seen has salt in it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Traditionally, salted butter was way saltier than our modern salted butter and it was a way to make it last longer before we had refrigeration and pasteurisation

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

When using butter as a spread it's nice to have some salt incorporated. A salt shaker is very easy to overdo on something light like toast or pancakes.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago

Salted butter is a condiment.

Unsalted butter is an ingredient.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

Do you eat butter straight? When you cook with butter you can add salt as needed, it's much harder to remove salt that's already there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Unsalted butter should be used when cooking specifically because you can control the salt level yourself directly by... Adding salt. It's easy to add salt, but very difficult to rebalance a dish when something is too salty.

Salted butter should be used when you're adding it to something that's already done, like when buttering toast.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or as some people want to do, whipping cream, sugar and whip. Then get distracted and come back to sweet butter and buttermilk.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

One way to get there

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago

Does your butter say just "butter" on the label, or something like "butter product?" Check the fine print, because that's not butter

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

That's not butter then.

Butter should include 100% butter, full stop.

Butter oil sounds like clarified butter that's been thickened up with milk powder or something?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

Partially Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, MSG, Butylated Hydroxyanisole, Propyl Gallate, Diacetyl, High-Fructose Corn Syrup (obv.), Tartrazine, Monosodium Glutamate, Salt, and traces of butter solids. Mmmmmm. Tasty.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oil. From butter. Duh. /s

p.s. You're gonna love it when you find out how much cacao is in "white chocolate".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Upon further inspection:

Ingredients :

  • Butter Oil 80.5%
  • Milk powder 2%
  • Salt: 1.5%
  • Contains milkd powder and may contain soy products.
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

That's a really excellent point. I suppose the other includes the soy products

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago

Honestly I can’t believe it’s not butter