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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I'm on Bluesky. I have seen a drama increase in followers in the last few days since Twitter let blocked people see content that were blocked from.

It's a big blow to Twitter that people are finding someplace, anyplace , else to go.

I had to decide if I was going to Mastodon or Bluesky. I picked Bluesky because after reading Mastodon's integration problems with itself I wanted nothing to do with it. It couldn't scale unless each instance played nice and in the years since it went live they had refused to do that and showed no signs of even moving in that direction.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (16 children)

What are the Mastadon Integration problems?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I run a few bots on Bluesky and absently check it occasionally on a personal account. Anecdotally I can say that I'm seeing a lot more engagement even just over the last week.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Taking a page out of Valves book.

Doing nothing and let the competition drive customers your way.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not really what Valve did. Valve kept doing cool things that benefit the customer, while the competition actively drove them away.

I don't follow social media. Is BlueSky feature rich and only getting better?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The biggest thing that valve did that kept them in everyone's good graces is that steam's core functionality hasn't had any major changes in years. Dare I say, more than a decade.

It's a platform where you buy games, download them, and play them.

In the early days you still had to deal with all the bullshit, including third party launcher installs and crap to get things going, and over time, valve simplified all of that, making it easier than ever to take advantage of the core function of steam: buying, downloading, and playing games.

Literally the only improvement I can absolutely, positively credit them for, is making that entire process, easier, simpler, and quicker, than ever.

Sure, you can chat to people, track achievements, comment on your profile, comment on your friends profiles, buy and sell cosmetics on the market thing, even voice chat and I think they have a way you can stream your game to friends.... Not sure on that last one.

It's like Facebook, FB marketplace, FB messenger, discord, Twitter... And a bunch of other services, all huddled together to make a bastard child with the entire PC video game industry.... That's steam.

But the core mechanic that was always the main reason why steam was great, remains the same.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It's a lot of art, cats, and big tiddy cartoons. I haven't found anything too onerous in its UI, the community has a somewhat toxic level of positivity but that's certainly better than the general toxicity of most of the web these days.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Theoretically, yes. Practically, the way their model is set up, it costs a lot to host a federated server so no one is doing it.

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[–] [email protected] 163 points 2 days ago (7 children)

we've been seeing these "twitter's in biiiiiiiiig trouble now!!" headlines for how many years now?

yet people refuse to just delete it

i can't wait for the day i can go a full 24 hours without twitter shit showing up on every feed

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I deleted Twitter as soon as Space Karen took over.

However, my friends and so many people I follow on other platforms still link their Twitter profiles. For some there needs to be something solid to make a real and consistent migration. I was overly hopeful that Threads (yes, another evil) would have buried Twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like I'm the only person who never signed up for Twitter.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (18 children)

Bluesky is decentralized only in its name. And media storage.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Better than the burning garbage inferno that is xitter.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I've been on Bluesky and Mastodon but I'm seeing people pretty happy with how less toxic it is on Bluesky.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

Just wait until enough sane people have left Twitter; it'll then implode and the fascist Nazi shitheads will migrate.

They don't want an echo chamber- they want to be able to shout their slurs and right-wing bullshit at you while you can't respond. It's exactly why places like Voat and that shitty T_D knockoff crashed. Once the ratio of right-wingers to non-right-wingers on Twitter hits a critical amount, they'll start looking for other places to infest.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 days ago (10 children)

Whelp, did mastodon got something out of this screwup?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Mastodon struggles a bit to pick up pace.

Found this:

https://www.makeuseof.com/why-people-leaving-mastodon/

It explains some pain points.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 days ago (15 children)

Basically it’s “I can’t get ✨ engagement ✨ on Mastodon”

People want big amounts of likes and reposts you don’t get that on Mastodon, the system is too distributed for that.

Bluesky gives them the big numbers

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

It's not a place for lurking, IMO. If you've got nothing to offer, don't expect to get engagement on shitposts and rage-bait.

I personally get more engagement on Mastodon, because I couldn't please the twitter algorithm. And I have 7 times fewer followers on Masto than I had on twitter.

Organic reach is best reach. Everything else is noise.

[–] [email protected] 45 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They want an algorithm.

As much as people mock it, or know it’s the source of why social media optimizes for outrage and other unhealthy behaviors, the algorithm is what they are missing on Mastodon.

As someone who always used third party Twitter apps, and never directly saw the algorithm in my timeline, mastodon feels like Twitter always did.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Some people don't want a suggestion algorithm but do want full reply federation.

Alec from Technology Connections stopped using mastodon because of this, every post he made would get nitpicked on by 20 different people from instances who did not federate the replies with each other so each reply guy thought they were the first.

I have a single user instance and I use a relay, but most replies are still missing if I click on a post unless I go to the original webpage.

Lazy-federating replies when a post is viewed sounds like an obvious solution but AFAIK the mastodon devs are very opposed to this.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep. Actually brave to say this given the fever that word throws people into. But not only is everything literally an algorithm, including “show your subscriptions in chronological order” but we all want a little more than that because it’s easy to imagine how one frequent poster would throw that experience off completely. We need to talk about what we want from algorithms and lay down this narrative that we must stamp them out of existence.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago

Glad to see people leaving X. I look forward to it’s end.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's the same Bluesky that Dorsey abandoned.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 22 hours ago

I wonder why though

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