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Remember when the libs here were saying only Russia does this and acting like it was beyond the pale?
I do because it was yesterday.
@yogthos @TheOubliette that's a symptom of supporting "the next thing" that the propaganda machine tells you π€£
soon the libs will be explaining to us how the war with Iran is the war we all needed
Huh that's gotta be the highest upvoted article critical of Ukraine regime i seen here.
Either libs are already in the inevitable process of transforming from "kill ruZZian orcs" to "we never supported that war" or we are just out of peak hours for lib brigades.
It really isn't that far of a reach to support ukraines fight for sovereignty but also detest forced conscription.
It's not one or the other.
Ukraine lost its sovereignity in 2014. Nuland was even handpicking their govt, you don't get less sovereign.
It really isnβt that far of a reach to support ukraines fight for sovereignty but also detest forced conscription.
You can always go volunteer
No! Two things are never allowed to be true at the same time!
Every man who gets away stays alive to rebuild later. Every man who gets caught extends the war and dies for nothing.
It's super hard to get away now..
Zelensky's regime may have troubles with keeping the eastern border safe, but the western one is defended like no other (that is, from people trying to escape of course).
And the bribes to get out legally are more than 10k$... For lots of us (especially for people living in villages) this is an amount of money we've never seen in a lifetime.
we had to use coyotes when we left mexico for the united states and that experience has left my entire family in desperate need of psychological counseling for the last 5 decades.
my heart breaks for the people who have to do something similar.
Itt liberals reveal that their is no depth of casual fascist bloodthirst they won't plumb. Pretending to care about Ukranians while they cheer for them getting rounded up and used as meatshields in a lost war.
The western supremacists are willing to sacrifice every Ukranian civilian, to push NATO east.
I think that most is against poor Russians dying in the same way, in the same lost war
Exactly, the only reasonable and humane position is to end the bloodshed with diplomacy immediately
lol no they aren't; they spent the last year calling Russians orcs and celebrating their deaths; don't give libs the benefit of the doubt; they're warping into modern day Nazis.
They applauded an SS veteran!
There's still a nightlife in Kyiv? The war there is worlds apart from what's happening in Gaza. Gaza hasn't had electricity or water for a year now.
That's not a war though, it's a genocide
Yes but Blinken said Russia is committing genocide so la la la la la I cant hear you!!!
Slava ukrainazis!!!!
@[email protected] how many more Ukrainians are going to have to be murdered by the regime for you to be happy?
You're finally admitting that the Russian invasion is murder?
do you admit ukrainian shelling of the breakaway republics was mass murder? or do they not count bc they speak the wrong language?
I'm talking about the murder of people who are being gang pressed into fighting by the fascist regime the west installed and people like you support.
@yogthos For any western liberal that is cheering on this bloodshed on behalf of Western capitalist powers, I invite you to jump on a plane and pick up a rifle.
This conflict has only two outcomes. A peace deal through negotiations as with any war in history, or WWIII.
Sadly, the American stance "we will fight Russia down to the last Ukrainian" is the reality. Once the smoke clears, if there was a victory, it will be the property of Western interests like Black Rock.
Seriously, wish all these people would just sign up for the foreign legion and put their money where their mouth is.
Just today Zaluzhnyi (ex AFU Commander-in-Chief) said that if needed, they will start mobilizing (so kidnapping from the streets, etc.) women too.
And then it finally going to be a proper, total genocide of Ukrainians...
I am sure there are no red lines for Zelensky's regime now... He can start murdering kids, and it will be met with western applause...