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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 hour ago

"But you're a 78 year old person running for president"

"Let's watch me stand on stage and listen to music for 45 minutes"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 hours ago

only thing hes ever said with any truth to it

[–] [email protected] 20 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

Considering the previous two elections, Trump just called the majority of the country idiots.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

He's right. The majority of americans are idiot.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 hours ago

"I love the uneducated!" - Donald John Trump

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Biden wasn't that bad a choice. I would have preferred someone to the left of him, by a lot, but I can acknowledge that he's done an objectively good gob, all things considered.

That infrastructure bill is already righting the economy. I think it could go further, but these things take time. Even so, we're in a much better position today than 4 years ago. We could be better, but where we are isn't horrible for where we came from.

So yes, Biden has enacted policy competently. Overall a C+. Maybe even a B- but there are things I'm unhappy with.

Like his DoJ slow walking the Jan 6th prosecutions, and not being aggressive about them. I mean, it was an open conspiracy to overthrow the US government. That had the wife of a Supreme Court Justice involved, along with about a dozen former and current Republican lawmakers.

The sentencing hearings for all of them should have been held last year, and yet most of them haven't even been charged.

Then there are the genocides.... I can understand the ones where the US is not involved at all (beyond them being organized on Facebook, we should be doing something about that after all...) but the genocide in motion that the US is actively enabling... that shit needs to stop for Biden to get that coveted A.

Still miles better than Trump... And due to First Past the Post, that's the options we have. Come November 10th (for incumbents that win, Jan 10th for the newly elected) I'll be sending letters to my congressmen, and anyone else who's address I can find, talking about voting reform. Real voting reform, not the flawed RCV bullshit. But things like Approval and STAR.

Harris seems like the sort of person who will at least focus on the DoJ, so carrying on the Biden policies, and maybe a few tweaks of her own, she'd be in solid B- range. Maybe up to a B+ if she enacts some actual social policy. But no A until the Genocides stop, or at least is US stops enabling them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I basically agree 100% and am voting for Harris with no hesitation… however saying that the difference between a B+ and an A is a genocide or two is kind of an odd way to put it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 59 minutes ago

I'm a realist.

The US has been involved in one genocide or another since its founding. We Can do better, but likely will not.

And I'm also a student of history. Almost every country on the planet has been or is currently involved in some sort of genocide or ethnic cleansing. Because humans kind of suck. We can be better, but we almost never make that choice.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah I wasn’t happy about Biden, I held my nose and voted for him and was kinda shocked. I’m pissed about Palestine and suspect he’s going to be remembered as a soft hand in an era in need of major change. But the infrastructure bill is huge. Our infrastructure was in catastrophic straits and while it likely won’t be remembered for what it did, that’s a failing of humans not of the bill. The best trait vital infrastructure can have is boring, and according to the experts our infrastructure was on the verge of being downright exciting.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Harris seems like the sort of person

That quote and the fact that she isn't Biden or Trump is her 90% of her campaign as of this moment. Feel free to link me her official platform otherwise.

Thank you for your grading scale breakdown. My own scale is quite different. "No A until the genocides stop" is an interesting viewpoint.

Also, this whole post kind of came out of left field. Perhaps, you meant to reply to my other post from yesterday?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Mostly it started as a Biden was old, and was a fairly good choice to follow Trump.

So Age need not be a disqualifier on its own...

After that, I started rambling a bit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Even Trump can occasionally be right!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 hours ago

A broken clock is right twice a day; however, a broken cuckoo clock is still cuckoo all times of the day.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 18 hours ago

He forgot he's not 40.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The guy is so fucking delusional it isn't funny. He was always a dumbass even back in the 80s.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I used to see him on Entertainment Tonight and think "this guy is an idiot. How is he so rich?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 hours ago

Inherited 400M invested in real estate and went bankrupt every time he really crapped out to avoid paying everyone. He still ended up worse off than an index fund until he became a reality TV star.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 16 hours ago

He's not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

every accusation is a confession

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Every accusation is a 40-minute impromptu concert to cover a dementia-addled man's sudden confusion by what all these people are doing in his house

[–] [email protected] 17 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Lol .... at this point they should just put him in a room full of about a hundred of his supporters and tell their leader that he is emperor of the United States. Then just feed them all AI generated CNN news broadcasts of his nation doing everything he wants. Let them all live like this until they die ..... none of them would probably notice the difference.

In the meantime, the rest of could go about our lives trying to save humanity on this planet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 18 hours ago

I've seen this be called, "heavenbanning" — you are shadowbanned from a platform, but instead of just shouting into the void, the void caresses your ego with AI slop.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If you used them as batteries, this would be the beginnings of The Matrix. I wanna be Tank so I can die off-screen between storylines.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, I was also here for the Matrix with extra steps comment.

[–] [email protected] 138 points 1 day ago

Well shit, we knew that

[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He's talking about how long young people will last on the supreme court. Still gross, but this article is click-baity and dumb with its premise.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ok, imagine Joe Biden said it.

Imagine the histrionics.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, it's a bad look essentially saying you should only put young justices on the SCOTUS in order to control it for longer. However, that is not a dumb thing to say. It's logical if your goal is control, which his obviously is. It's why the lifetime appointments are so bad. It encourages putting young, less qualified justices on the court instead of older, potentially more qualified ones.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago

It would still be a dumb article.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The title is basically a blatant lie, easily shown to be deceptive simply by reading the article.

Yet look at this comments section and how many people have bought the deception hook, line, and sinker.

We shit on Republuicans for being idiots who support Trump, which is true, but it's almost like we are trying to out-stupid them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 20 hours ago

it's almost like we are trying to out-stupid them.

Well I wouldn't go that far lol

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It applies and should apply no less to the most powerful office and single person in the world

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Especially since that person would probably love to remove the term limit so he can stay in power

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

No, it doesn't apply, at least not for the same logic. He didn't say that because the older people are less capable. He said it because a younger person will give you control for longer most likely. They're lifetime appointments, so the logical choice for maintaining control is to appoint healthy young people, not the most qualified people.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I follow the logic, but I would also argue if the chances are always higher of a sitting President to win the following term, the GOP would have been better off running anyone who had not already held office and can maintain control for a possible 8 years and not just 4? So he would be saying Republicans should have voted for Nicky Haley in the primaries.

Edit: Nah - I guess that is a bit different, because they could argue idiots already liked him, so he stood a better chance at getting back in and they didn't believe she could I guess

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm not arguing that. But the point is different... He's talking about longevity, not acumen.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago

So now everyone is certain Trump would actually live through the whole term?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That was a loaded headline, since he was referring only to Supreme Court judges who get to stay in for as many decades as they'd like.

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