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A woman from China pleaded guilty on Friday to attempting to smuggle 29 eastern box turtles, a protected species, across a Vermont lake into Canada by kayak.

Wan Yee Ng, 41, was arrested on the morning of June 28 at an Airbnb in Canaan as she was about to get into an inflatable kayak with a duffle bag on Lake Wallace, according to a Border Patrol agent's affidavit filed in federal court.

Agents had been notified by Royal Canadian Mounted Police that two other people, including a man who was believed to be her husband, had started to paddle an inflatable watercraft from the Canadian side of the lake toward the United States, according to court documents.

The agents searched her heavy duffle bag and found 29 live eastern box turtles individually wrapped in socks, the affidavit states. Eastern box turtles are known to be sold on the Chinese black market for $1,000 each, the affidavit stated.

Her cellphone was seized, and a search by law enforcement found communications showing that she tried to smuggle the turtles into Canada so that they could eventually be sold for a profit in Hong Kong, according to the plea agreement. Ng, from Hong Kong, was living in Canada.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

The Asian black market for rare, endangered and protected species makes me sad af. All the needless killings for some ivory dust or shark fin it's nuts to me. All in the name of fringe bs beliefs

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Turtles. Do. Not. Pets. Make! They are riddled with a myriad of diseases! You may as well tie a leash around a raw chicken cutlet!

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I suspect the ultimate destination for these turtles was “being consumed” vs being a pet.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Processed into Chinese medicine type consumption, rather than food?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Ending a sentence with “make” as above is an old poetic style, used sometimes for emphasis. It comes from a phrase by Aristotle: “One swallow does not a summer make…”

But the quote above is from the tv show “Schitt’s Creek” - which is a hilarious sitcom, if you’re able to I recommend checking it out.

Here’s the scene quoted above:

https://youtube.com/shorts/YtKcE31UsSk?si=Qe6m1gvgD3-l2w5v

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Turtles seem like cool pets though

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (3 children)

So why is is a black market good? Do Chinese people eat it? Is it illegal to eat in China?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"Traditional Chinese medicine" would be my guess. And it may not be possible to breed them in captivity.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

It's especially worth noting that "Traditional Chinese Medicine" is a relatively modern invention by the CCP for cultural unity purposes. It takes various pre-scientific practices from all manner of historically disparate places and times in what now constitutes modern day China and pretends that they were always some kind of harmonious whole. Like as if the EU made up something using ancient medical beliefs from Portugal to Romania in order to enforce the idea that Europe was somehow historically a whole and therefore should be today. It's utter rubbish.

This may be a bit off topic but I can't help but feel the need to rant whenever TCM is mentioned and hopefully this is informative to someone.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're a protected species that is at risk of being endangered. It's illegal to even keep them as pets in the states that they're native to, let alone export them for any reason.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

We found a box turtle walking across the road in the suburbs one day with a group of children gathered around and decided to turn it into a lesson on why they needed to leave they turtle alone (or at least if they were moving him off the road, to move him in the direction he was going.)

They're awesome looking turtles. I wouldn't think if owning one or eating one. Not my idea of cuddly or... food.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I admit I've never tried to smuggle 29 turtles into Canada, but there has to be a better way.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

New board game just dropped! Smugglers of Canaan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago

Ah, a man of culture I see. Next let's teach poodles how to fly.