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I suspect that this is the direct result of AI generated content just overwhelming any real content.

I tried ddg, google, bing, quant, and none of them really help me find information I want these days.

Perplexity seems to work but I don't like the idea of AI giving me "facts" since they are mostly based on other AI posts

ETA: someone suggested SearXNG and after using it a bit it seems to be much better compared to ddg and the rest.

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I just use chatGPT to search now. I have a super-prompt in its memory telling it how to search and to cite sources and provide links and it is so much better than Google even though it's using AI, too.

*The future is now, old men!

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 days ago

Funnily enough I've found using an LLM to parce the data, then cross checking it's source as well as my own sources to be superior to previous searches.

It's annoying to change the way you just mindlessly search, but if you're upset by it just mindlessly search, end of discussion.

[–] [email protected] 154 points 1 week ago (23 children)

they're pretty bad, but ddg at least feels like I'm getting actual results.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

DDG often gives me results for individual words of the search but not results for all of the words in that order for which to have contextually relevant results.

I often find myself forced to brave the shitshow that is google search.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

have you tried the duck assist thing yet?

If you're trying to talk to the search engine more like a chat assistant, that sort of response might be what you're looking for.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Fuck Duck Assist all my homies hate Duck Assist and I keep having to turn it back off again.

Whoever made it should get cancer and not have their children show up or call them back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

haha, whaaat why?

I just saw it for the first time today, it seems to mostly quote incredible sources rather than amalgamating responses.

you got some issues huh, poor fella?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings and made you want to defend an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets, but maybe you should go eat some ass?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"I'm sorry I hurt your feelings"

I feel only pity for you.

reading your comments is like watching a diseased guinea pig nibble on its own scabs.

"an LLM that approves copy pasted wikipedia snippets"

duckduckgo's llm tool offers relevant information from credible sources.

that is good.

Good luck unbunching those panties.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Too many big words for you?

I'm sincerely glad they make you laugh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol

Too many big words for you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

"You literally tried to argue against the DDG CEO's statement about how DuckAssist works lol"

you clearly need help.

The statement you provided says exactly what I said in greater detail, that the duck duck Go llm verifies apparently factual statements with credible third-party sources, you are literally providing further evidence for my comments while proving yourself incorrect.

it is funny watching you proving yourself wrong, though, and you should keep doing it.

I hope you find another source that further supports what I'm saying while completely backfiring against your proud ignorance.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago (13 children)

Yeah DDG is great. The only thing I find is its not good at local results but a quick !g on the end gets me the local results im looking for.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Holy shit the bangs work at the end of the search query too!? I've always painfully pressed Home on my keyboard to add a !g whenever I realise I had better searched this on Google

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[–] [email protected] 122 points 1 week ago

It's not just you. Search got worse, and it did so intentionally.

Ed Zitron lays it all out really well, with all the receipts, but the basic version is this; Google has an incentive to make you search more for the same things, because then they can show you more ads. And google is, first and foremost, an ad delivery company. Every "product" they own is an ad delivery vehicle. It's not just AI slop that made search based; Google made search bad, and everyone else followed suit, to a greater or lesser degree.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (28 children)

I'm very happy with kagi at the moment. Just crossed one year using it as my main search engine last week and don't see why I would go back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Is it really $108/year good though for a single person (based on the tier that makes sense for me)? Just curious what other search engines you’ve used or tried and what features set it apart to make it worth spending the money on.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Unfortunately they started to play with AI too :-(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

It was disabled by default on my account I think

[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Same. Using Kagi feels like surfing the old web. The first thing I did was block all Pinterest results. That alone made every search golden. 😂

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It is, and it's not just the search engines to blame.

The content out there is incredibly spammy. It doesn't pay to create good content. It pays to make a pool of AI gunge based on what people search for and then stick ads on it.

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[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 week ago (2 children)

SEO spam has been a problem for a long time, but AI has allowed it to be accelerated to a whole new level.

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Not just you.

DDG has deteriorated to absolute nonsense, I’ve used it for years and years.

Recently gave startpage another go - maybe marginally better but still really poor

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The whole internet is in the process of being filled with garbage content. Search engines are bad but also there's not much good content left to find (in % of the total)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I feel like it’s especially bad if you are searching for anything related to a marketable product. I tried searching ddg for information about using a surge protector with halogen bulbs and all I got was pages and pages of listicles on “best halogen lights 2024” full of affiliate links.

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