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[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At some point this kind of nonsense starts to sound like the sort of thing you'd expect from malicious fairies in a fantasy rpg

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think that's who they believe is running the world's governments.

Edit: I wish they were right, then half the stuff they talk about might actually work.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those were certainly all words.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

There ain't no Babble Quite like sovereign citizen Babble

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Ipsum sovcitum

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I really need some sort of interpretation of this, even to a minimal degree. What exactly is the debt of your birth that the government now owes you?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's a kernel of truth in the nonsense.

The US government issues Treasury bonds. The bonds have value because everyone knows the US government will pay them back with interest.

The government gets its money to pay back Treasury bonds from taxes. If you take all the future bond payment owed and divide it by the number of tax payers, you get an average amount of value that each tax payer is worth.

Sovcits think they can claim that potential value instead of the government selling the value of taxpayers as bonds.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

The best bullshit is always based on a sliver of truth

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, seriously; most of these folks have to be trolling the rest of them. I knew a guy in college who'd make this kind of trolling a full-time hobby.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Occasionally I troll them with some dumb but benign advice for my own amusement, but mostly these people are dead serious.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Someday they will each figure out that there is no magical bank account setup in their name that they can access. You would think that it would dawn in them since no one appears to have successfully recited the appropriate spell to make it happen.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

The department of public debt, which no longer exists.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Creditors and debtors of what? Cause it kind of sounds like if you issued the government your birth certificate that would mean they purchased it and you sold it to them on credit.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I want what this yayhoo is on.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You can get crack at any friendly neighborhood drug dealer!

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

The most frustrating thing about these fuckwits is that if they had any goddamn brains or took the time to read a book every so often they’d be anarchists. Instead they act as though Law is somehow legitimate if it comes from a specific source, rather than questioning the validity of any law.