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[–] [email protected] 148 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It seems believable given the story of the “Radium Girls”, workers who painted radioactive paint on watch dials to make them glow. They’d lick the tips of the brushes when they got too frayed… which eventually led to cancer.

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/19/style/radium-girls-radioactive-paint/index.html#:~:text=Women%20painting%20alarm%20clock%20faces,brush%20and%20ingesting%20radioactive%20radium.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Whoa. Eating radioactive material isn't great at all.

From a different time, too: An X-Ray shoe fitter

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

A department store still had one of these when I was a kid, but it wasn't used. It was, however, in occasional use when my brother was very little in the early 80s. My mom has pictures of him with his foot in it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

They want to cancel bananas now.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

To be fair, the factory management knew that it was dangerous but didn't tell the workers and encouraged them to lick the brush.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

Phew.

I came to the comments for this hope.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 month ago (2 children)

This sounds like something that was made up for a fallout game.

Of course, so does "bombarding myself with xrays and moving around to entertain the audience looking at my bones" and "including uranium in paint to make watch dials glow"

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They did it with uranium too? I knew about radium, but not that.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Uranium wasn't used for watch dials, but Uranium Orange is a colour of cermic glaze. It was pretty popular in America from the 1930's to around 1942, when the government needed all the uranium for some big secret project. After the 60's it was made with depleted uranium, instead of natural ore, until someone realized this still wasn't a great idea.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Fun fact: fiestaware plates (this was the company that made the uraranium glazed ceramics) are commonly used by radiation safety folks as check sources and for teaching how to use survey meters. This is because they usually aren’t considered a radioisotope source, so there’s less paperwork to keep them around.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Sadly, it is. (But not for Fallout specifically.)

[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 month ago

I believed this was real until I searched for it 😂 To be fair to my own credulity, Plutonium Jazz would not be the most insane thing people did with radioactive materials back then. The "medicines" alone make Plutonium Jazz sound pretty tame.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (4 children)

But Geiger counters aren't rhythmic at all, radioactive decay is, pretty famously, random.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 month ago

True, much like memes are pretty famously fabricated.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

... Jazz.

/S

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Rhythmic? No, not really. More exciting if the musician could somehow anticipate this fundamentally unpredictable event? Absolutely.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Follows a Poisson distribution. I guess one could call that random.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Well, its random, like... by definition.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

The third sentence makes it clear it's fake

  • Geiger counters aren't rhythmic, they're random
  • How would the audience know the beat matches the counter?
  • Random music doesn't sound good, the audience would be more excited for good music

Disappointed in the people who believed this.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Well... This is jazz... I'm skeptic as well, but what if it was some sort of experimental modern jazz where the musicians would try to predict the next click?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (3 children)

You can't predict the next click, that's what random means. This would never have gotten far enough to appear in front of an audience. They would have tried it at rehearsal and realised it was impossible.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It does have a rate though. Each click is random, but overall they're at a predictable rate. Still, it wouldn't be useful for music really. I could see someone trying to make it happen though. I've heard of dumber things.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Well in that case all you've done is reinvent tempo but worse. Unless you vary the rate on the fly, which requires moving the counter and/or radioactive material on the fly. And then all you've done is create a very bad musical instrument.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It would be Musical Roulette essentially

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

The Geiger counter can be pre recorded, creating the illusion it was life, yet allowing the composition to be crafted around it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

And even if it worked, you wouldn't need a radiation source more dangerous than a banana to make a geiger counter go click enough to play along.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago
[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If there were hazardous levels of radiation, the clicks would be a squeal, you wouldn't be able to match a rhythm to it

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Right. If you were to attempt something like this, you'd be better off with something like a chunk of granite than plutonium.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Since "Geiger" is German for "violinist", you can replicate it with a guy who counts how many violinists are present

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

"3.6 violinists. Not great, not terrible."

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

147282793856...
[jazz plays]

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a Cowboy Bebop episode involving smuggled fissile material.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Live performances at Chernobl when?!