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[–] [email protected] 108 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m not subscribing to streaming services.

I’ll ditch the idea of watching TV the moment my arr setup stop working.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I used to subscribe to streaming services but then they took all their content that I used to watch off - either to move to another streaming service or just "gone forever".

If they don't want the money I was giving them, why do they give a fuck if I pirate it? I tried to do things right and they told me they didn't want my money.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Exactly, I cancelled my Netflix subscription when I knew you can watch season 1 and 2 of a show but you must subscribe to another service to watch 3 and 4.

It was the dealbreaker to me.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Petty infighting between scene groups needs to stop. Fall together or fall apart.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Did we read the same article? This mentions nothing about infighting between groups.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 11 months ago

So, a couple people went down because OpSec was broken by rival scene groups outing people’s identities; from there things started to crumble more and more.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Lesson: either get a seedbox, get a VPN in Amsterdam, or live in South/South-east Asia.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Seedbox

I've admitted kinda taken a backseat to piracy for the last while, and I've seen this term come up a ton. Is it just a remote server that you download all of your shit on?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 11 months ago

Yup. If you care about ratio then it has some proper speeds and ssd. But most people use it as a hop. I stopped and switched the arr to a docker network that only uses proton vpn. Best decision ever.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Precisely but it doesn't have to be remote. Some people self host locally but that requires a fast connection and a vpn. Most remote seedbox's are basically virtual private servers. They usually have apps like Jellyfin or plex for streaming all your content locally. Which is what I do and it's very automated and convenient. You can also use your seedbox as a vpn tunnel. If you're a member or interested in private torrent trackers, a seedbox is recommended to help keep your ratio high.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is this actually considered seedboxing? I always thought it was a remote thing for an extra layer of privacy

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

They can be. It's really down to user preference. You can setup your own server locally with containers and vpn Killswitches, or you can pay monthly on some server space remotely. A seedbox is basically just a server for seeding/torrenting.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I believe this is more about scene release groups. People that rip bluerays or retrieve copies of cinema movies

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

They should be using seedboxes to seed, and should be using VPNs in other countries to upload their content. Worst case scenario, torrenting completely moves to i2p, eradicating the problems being faced by these groups today

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is there a way to get and pay seedboxes anonymously? Otherwise the feds could "just" get your information from them. Like with every VPN service you got to trust the the service and their confidentiality (not keeping logs etc) I guess?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Even if you do pay them anonymously, your IP will be recorded when you access/download from them. Case in point: Mullvad was forced to shut off port-forwarding because of torrent traffic on their network. Mullvad allows you to pay with Monero.

Don't do it for the privacy, do it because having the server in a different country like the Netherlands makes it easier to pirate. For all they know, you're just accessing random IPs in the Netherlands and all they see is HTTPS traffic.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IP alone isnt enough to convict someone in the states though. Since it only points to the local network and not the person on the network it could be anyone on that network. It was the issue the RIAA ran into when trying to take music downloaders to court.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

How about Denmark?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's the thing, you'd have to connect to the seedbox via VPN anyways.

I'm using usenet anyway, always have, always will ;⁠-⁠)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

How do you find good things on Usenet now? So much of it is uploaded encrypted

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That's what the indexer is for, no? Gives you the keys and a map.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

Most of the good ones are either invite only or pay for, and even then you'll only get access to some of the keys needed.

None of the free ones provide keys as far as I've been able to find.

It seems rather messy and convoluted compared to how usenet used to be.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Why Amsterdam specifically?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Plenty of data centres and the Netherlands are excellent in terms of government policy towards "sharing"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Good to know. I've been concerned about finding host nations that let us do what we want.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (1 children)

"The most recent reported conviction saw a 37-year-old man receive a 60-day suspended prison sentence in September for pirating more than a thousand works through local BitTorrent trackers." Woaaah now, calm down there, killas. A hand can only be slapped so hard. Why even bother convicting at this point if one can pirate thousands of things and get a sentence like this? Surely they must realize how little of a deal it really is?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 months ago

It is an action to emphasize the piracy is illegal and they will hunt you down for it using state resources, not matter the sentence.

This guy will be on their shitlist at least for a decade now. The next sentence would be times worse. But the best effect of this is that you sentence one guy, no matter how light the sentence is, then 1000 teens are afraid of ever thinking of piracy. Surely some of them will say "lol look at the joke of a sentence, so keep on pirating" but a lot won't.

What's better yet, a lot of those afraid teenagers will internalize piracy as both illegal and immoral.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 11 months ago

Hugs mullvad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Were these people that were arrested not using a VPN?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

yea, never understood this.

i use a very thoroughly tested no-logs vpn for everyday casual stuff but this isn't the first time i've seen people doing encodes get caught. i'm not a genius but i know how to read shit online, ask questions, and test my setup... you'd think people doing sketchier stuff would lean into the same a bit harder than I have.