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[–] [email protected] 71 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It's safe to assume at this point that delays and chaos (and the opportunities both will provide for fraud) are the exact point.

This time around, Georgia is going to be prepared to "find" Trump however many votes he needs.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The real question is whether they're going to bother actually doing the math to make it believable, or if they're going to give Trump 105% of the state's population worth of votes.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

i am thinking they are going to scrutinize black neighborhood polling stations and say they didn't match the hand count of total ballots with the digital total and therefore this polling station is invalid or something

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Significant delay combined with the party that insists elections are supposed to be over at midnight. Seems like an obvious recipe to count certain votes first and then whoops out of time.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly. Low-population areas are Republican-leaning and will get counted fast. Cities which are Democratic-leaning won't have the staff to count it in one night.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Lots of places have rules about how many polling stations per county. It's designed to create lines to vote in cities and no lines in rural areas.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How is this not shut down as obvious voter suppression. What other reason could there be for doing this? How do they justify it?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They don't justify it, they just do it. Same with gerrymandering.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

It's not a bug; it's a feature.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 month ago

That same party already made it much more onerous for people of color to vote in Georgia which will mean fewer votes to count as well

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

And don’t even think about giving water to people stuck in line for hours in the heat. That’s a felony. (Okay its a misdemeanor, and a judge “paused enforcement” of it sort of.)

Fuckery Ahoy!!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Could one person go along the queue, giving out 1 penny's.

Then a second person go along the queue, selling bottles of water for a penny?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Yes. Yes you can. At least you could about 4 years ago. I live in GA and was going to do this last election but turns out my county don't enforce this dumb freaking rule so I did all that research for nothing.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck. They passed it. Harris just lost Georgia.

Look into the details of what was passed. It won't simply delay reporting, it will allow them to refuse certification of results based on almost anything, including "suspicious" results, i.e., Trump losing under any circumstance. They've also installed loyalists across the state to halt certifications based on that principle on purpose.

Georgia just successfully overthrew democratic elections in their state. They did it after working out loud and in public on it for four years, and no one did anything about it. I'm dead serious when I say that this functionally and practically, which is all that matters, makes it impossible for Harris to win Georgia.

Incredible. And incredibly sad.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

So by law all ballot boxes will have their seals broken immediately.

Fucking Jenius, georgia republiQans! That’s such a vote-securing idea! Also when all your Big Lie accusations become plans, you’ve gone full seditionist, just FYI ok? Ok!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As a Canadian and former campaign volunteer (and poll observer) this is really weird to me. Federal elections in Canada are always hand-counted. Results at each polling station are counted in front of volunteer observers from each party (as well as neutral observers) and then delivered to Elections Canada where they’re tallied (in front of lawyers from each party) and results are reported to the media.

It’s not a big deal and there’s no chaos.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

It's a lot more doable when you don't have a 6 page ballot with several dozen offices on it and have planned and budgeted for hand counts. It's hard to do with lots of positions on the ballot, little notice that it's going to be done, and no money to hire staff to do the counting

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago

The delay is intended by Republicans, in order to cause a crisis that goes to SCOTUS... who seems to be owned and operated by the GOP. I'd say lets compromise... they can hand count and if not done by the cutoff then their votes simply are not admitted. Sucks to the non Republicans in the juristictions but hey, why let these dumbshits screw up the whole election?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

reminder that they are hand counting ballots that the ballot marking machine printed out, instead having of the computerized polling system the Republican governor put in a few years ago to ensure accuracy count them.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

TBF that same Republican governor deleted the data during an investigation into the vote count because he was overseeing his own election. Hand counting could potentially be more accurate...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

HARRIS JUST LOST GEORGIA.

This is basically the first election result. Trump just won his first 16 electoral college votes. This should be HUGE news.

Trump loyalists now have the power to privately count votes and additionally have the power to not certify any results for reasons left intentionally vague.

Let me reiterate. HARRIS JUST LOST THE STATE OF GEORGIA.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I looked up this story on the Gateway Pundit because I'm a sadist i guess. The comments were...about what you'd expect. https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/09/huge-georgia-state-election-board-passes-rule-requiring/

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