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I’m curious if there’s a name to the belief I have. I wouldn’t exactly call it atheist, though i generally lean that way, but I wouldn’t call it non-theist. The thing is, I just plain don’t care if God exists or not. They could, or they couldn’t, it really has no bearing on how I live my life. For that reason along I think I go in the atheist camp, but I always thought that was used to describe people who don’t think he exists.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 hours ago

Apatheism

An apatheist is someone who is not interested in accepting or rejecting any claims that gods do exist or do not exist. The existence of a god or gods is not rejected, but may be designated irrelevant.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago

You're an Agnostic.

Agnosticism is the view or belief that the existence of God, the divine, or the supernatural is either unknowable in principle or unknown in fact.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago

Agnostic atheist.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago

Agnostic atheist. That's a pretty standard position for atheists. It means you don't believe in gods but you're not claiming that they don't exist. Proving that something doesn't exist is logically impossible so there's no point even bothering to try. So we're willing to believe in gods, if someone presents convincing evidence for their existence. Until then we don't.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd say YoFrodo's answer of apatheism is possibly the closest you're going to get, but speaking in general terms of not believing or caring one way or the other, you'd be agnostic, not an atheist. Atheism is the belief that there are no gods and out right rejection in the belief of any gods. Those saying you're atheist don't know what one is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Atheism is the belief that there are no gods and out right rejection in the belief of any gods.

No, not quite. Atheism is not believing in a god, it doesn't mean you claim there is not a god. A subtle difference, but it is the difference between not believing, and believing not. Also, agnosticism isn't a middle ground between theism and atheism, there is no middle ground, as it is dichotomous. Agnosticism speaks to knowledge, or what you claim to know. So, a person could be an agnostic atheist, or an agnostic theist.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Maybe look up atheism then try correcting your own comment instead of mine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 21 minutes ago

What I said is absolutely correct. If you have a disagreement perhaps you should be more clear and less snarky.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That is what I call Atheist. You don't care if one exists or not.
Atheist like us generally get thrown in with anti-theists (people who refuse an existence of gods) and are just as bad as a fundamentalist trying to prove they are right about a god existing or not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

what I call Atheist. You don't care if one exists or not.

The classical Atheist cares. He finds it important that God does not exist.

This here is an Agnostic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

The classical Atheist cares. He finds it important that God does not exist.

I see you fall into my second line of lumping Atheists with anti-theists.

Agnostic is you believe there is something equating to a god but don't believe in God

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

You're capitalising God to mean some abraamic god or just whichever currently proposed god?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Say you have a jar full of jellybeans. We know that the number of whole jellybeans in the jar must be either even or odd.

If someone asks you if you believe the number of jellybeans in the jar is even, you can and should say "no" if you haven't counted them or otherwise gathered any evidence to support that conclusion. To believe something is to say you feel it is more likely true than false, and you can't say that about the given proposition.

Importantly, this does not mean you do believe the number of jellybeans is odd. The fact that one of those two things must be true does not mean you have to pick one to believe and one to disbelieve. It is perfectly rational to reserve belief either way until you have evidence one way or the other. You do not believe it's even, nor do you believe it's odd.

So, if we define "atheist" as "someone who does not believe in any gods", I think you meet the definition of atheist. Just like the person in the above example does not believe the jellybeans are even & also does not believe they are odd, you don't need to believe "there are no gods anywhere" to not believe "there is at least one god".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

If you do not believe there is at least one god, don't you automatically believe there is at most zero gods? Isn't that how logic works? If you don't know you say you don't know, not you dont believe. When you say you do not believe you think have proof it isn't...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

The purpose of my jellybean thought exercise was to show that "I don't know" and "I don't believe" are not mutually exclusive. Basically:

I do not believe [x] != I believe [not x]

I don't believe in String Theory. String Theory may be correct for all I know: I am not a physicist, and my understanding of String Theory is cursory at best.

Because I do not have enough evidence to warrant belief, I cannot say I believe in String Theory. But that same lack of understanding means I must also say I don't believe that String Theory is false.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Probably could be called agnostic or maybe deist. I'm not super familiar with either but that might be what you're looking for

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Deist is IIRC some number of gods probably existed and set the world into motion but do not play a role in day to day life.