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Edit: Fellow white people, please read the article before just reading the title and reflexively commenting to make it about yourselves, thx

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Um, is this a blatantly racist title? As a white person who never even got offended at Haitians claiming freedom in the first place, I think it is.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's a shitty, incendiary, clickbait title.

If you have to gain equality by dragging someone down instead of elevating yourself, then we all end up down in the mud. Hate is not progress.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't call it blatantly racist, it's obviously biased coming from someone of Haitian heritage. But I think they over-sell it.

Your average American likely doesn't think about Haiti at all, positively or negatively.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, if you asked Trump supporters to find Haiti on a map, I'm guessing a single-digit percentage is getting it right. Their prejudice towards immigrants is not some calculated, historically-informed position. It's a basal fear of the other.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I don't even know what they got independence from. France, hundreds of years ago? Why would I care? To equate white people with the French definitely seems racist to me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

It's no different than the US blowing stuff up in the developing world. It's not about you specifically.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Not so sure it’s white people in general. France, obviously yes. I don’t think any other country ever demanded “reparations” for the loss of slave labor. That said, the US has had a complicated and at times troubling relationship with Haiti, intervening on France’s side during Jefferson’s presidency (Jefferson was a slave owner and shit was fucked).

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Britain required former slaves to work for 2 years unpaid before they were free to go post abolition. Slave owners received £17bn in today's money in reparations.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Interesting, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The United States actually paid reparations to slavers. We paid slavers in DC the equivalent of $9000 per slave.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compensated_emancipation

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Gotta make an example out of 'em or all our people who are "property" in the USA might get ideas. /s but not really, that was the thinking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Not all white people...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh shit, we haven't? Do I... do I have to start saying stuff about eating pets?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And here I thought I agreed with the Haitians, and thought that people like John Brown did nothing wrong...

Turns out I'm Big Mad?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Nothing like a little racism to point out some other racism