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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (21 children)

The idea that judges shouldn't be elected is deeply rooted in the reactionary ideology of an aristocracy that believed the masses shouldn't be trusted with any decisions that actually matter and should be regarded with suspicion instead of trusted with decisions.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

This is probably the worst option. Judges should be professional and not populists pandering to the public.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (14 children)

What? Democratically appointed judges? That’s amazing , wonder why the US hasn’t thought of this? Ohh right that’s because we give way too much power to the one in office. This is great for Mexico now the US needs to do this.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 days ago

Literally reactionary.

This ideology is what lead to the US having a fascist Court.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

So they should only pander to the political class? That seems great...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago

If there are education and experience requirements imposed on judicial candidates, and then they are elected, this is not an issue. Because those who are elected are accountable to those who elected them

(provided they can be removed from.power by the same people, which is one of those "checks and balances" Western "democracies " have imposed so we can't remove them).

That way you have professionals/experts who are accountable to the people. Obviously elections can always be tampered with and influenced by powerful and moneyed interests, but by assuming this is true and then making it the default is a bit daft tbh.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is an inheritently reactionary and anti-democratic idea.

This is probably the worst option. Political leaders should be professional and not populists pandering to the public.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

How does one be a populist while not pandering to the public.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The very same reaction to the amend shows how urgent it is to to change the judicial system. I'm glad this was done and I can't wait to vote corrupt judges out of office.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Interesting. If judges are going to be political regardless, I don't see another option for democracies.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

There is no such thing as an apolitical judge. The judges you see as apolitical are just centrists supporting the status quo, but that is not actually an apolitical frame of action.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Strong and diverse press, strong and enforced rules against politically motivated decisions. A judge should know that, if they don't strictly follow the law, they'll lose their job. This won't make the thing perfect, but far better than officially political judges.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

So how would the judges be appointed under this system and why is it better than having them chosen from the people?

If the current system hasn't prevented political influence, then the method of choosing obviously isn't guaranteeing unbiased judges anyway, so what's the point in keeping it as opposed to elected judges?

Why not have elected judges and

Strong and diverse press, strong and enforced rules against politically motivated decisions.

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