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I decided on cleaning my laptop fans today, which I've been procrastinating for about a year now because of this one screw. But I just can't seem to open this with my screwdriver, since whatever I did back when I last opened it it's nearly circular now. Is there a way to unscrew this?

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[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Carefully dremel a slot in the screw head and use a flat head screwdriver.

Make sure you don't get any dust into the electronics.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

So if you have a dremel and steady hands, a cut off wheel can make your own slot for a straight Phillips.

Just be careful to not knick anything else. This is more of a last resort thing, but I’ve never had it not work.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Learn from my mistakes, mask off your laptop's ports and vents before you do this

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Ooof. Not something I’d have thought of myself…

Benefit of your hindsight it’s obvious… lol. How bad were the sparks?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Surprisingly quiet, one little 'pop' was the last I heard from that motherboard. On-board power supplies were a reasonable step forward but man are they not fault tolerant

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Flathead/standard not a straight Philips.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Flathead is a description of the head profile, like panhead. Slotted is the screwdriver type that is just a single slot.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It could be a regional thing. Where I'm from a screw with a single straight slot can be called a flathead whether the actual head of the screw is flat or domed.

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They make screw extractor bits with thread that winds the opposite way from the screw itself so that the bit drills into the screw while turning counterclockwise, but I don't think that's worth bothering with here (and I've never seen an extractor small enough). Just drill the head off with a normal drill bit. The body will stay stuck in the hole, but you'll be able to take the cover off and laptops are usually held together by so many screws that a missing one won't cause problems.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Old life hack that occasionally works for this is to use a rubber band. Grab a rubber band wide enough to cover the screw head, push the screwdriver into the screw through the rubber band, and pray it has enough grip to twist the screw loose. Good luck with whatever method you use.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Never in the history has that worked for me of doing laptop repair professionally.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

It's worked for me but with a couple layers of insulation tape rather than a rubber band.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. This is always in the list of handyman hacks, and using a rubberband has never worked for me either. I'm convinced 90% of the people recommending it are just repeating what they've heard and haven't actually tried it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I've tried it a dozen or so times, maybe worked 2-3 of them. I keep it in my arsenal of tricks because it's quick and easy to try with no negative repercussions if it doesn't work.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Old Nintendo security screws were easily overcome by melting the end of a pen tube (the clear plastic Bic's were always my preference), and jamming it in there holding it still while it cooled. Could work in this case.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 months ago

Try addinv a rubber band between the screw and the screwdriver, it adds friction which sometimes (usually not) helps

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Put a rubber band between screwdriver and screw, otherwise the other things already stated like CA glue, filing a flathead groove, or drilling the cap off

in the future use the appropriate sized driver and retire drivers when they become stripped

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

This. The rubber band trick works well for the first step. I came to say this.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

If you have a Dremel, grind a slot into it and unscrew it.

If it has a hard backing, you can place a flat head screwdriver on it, give it a few taps, apply loads of pressure and turn it out.

If none of these are possible, a drop of CA adhesive on the screwdriver head, push it against the screw, make sure there is no excess leakage, then use a quick set spray. Once the screw has been turned out, use acetone to remove the glue.

If all of this fails, you gotta drill it. A hand crank drill, and a left handed bit. People seldom have these, so I assume this is your last resort.

Final bit of advice, hit the screw head a couple of times before you try any of these as it loosens the screw a tad. Also, sharpen an old screwdriver tip to just the width and thickness of what is left of the screw head slots. You should be able to find one that is already this size in those screwdriver tip sets

Good luck.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

If you have a Dremel, grind a slot into it and unscrew it.

This has saved my ass many times. I keep one of those diamond coated wheels on a spare cutoff mandrel already mounted up pretty much specifically for this purpose.

Harbor Freight has a pretty cheap left handed drill bit set that is sometimes a lifesaver in these situations. Many times I just start drilling it with the left hand bit and often the bit grabs and unscrews the screw before even getting to the phase of trying the screw extractor on it. Sometimes not.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Take the drill bit out of your drill. Open the chuck up all the way and place it over the screw. If there is enough screw head there you might be able to grab it with the drill and just unscrew.

Edit: looking at the other picture makes me think it is recessed and that wouldn't work then.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

Cripes, it never even occurred to me that you could do this with a chuck. Thanks for expanding my mind.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vampliers!

I work(ed) with old machines, and it was an absolute godsend. Prefer it after using penetrating spray on stuck screws.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

I once had a screw on a laptop that wouldn't unscrew and eventually somewhat lost its shape. I had asked my uncle for help, who gave me the solution. I think it was slightly less bad than this, but it might help:

  1. Apply WD40 around the edges of the screw, such that it could enter the hole
  2. Apply it to the screw head
  3. Hold your screwdriver in the hole and gently tap it with a hammer a couple of times
  4. Slowly attempt to screw it out, whilst applying firm downward pressure on the screw

Note that the amounts of WD40 you have to apply are tiny. We're talking drops of the stuff. It might be best to attempt to spray something else, and use the residue on the nozzle to apply it

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Drill in it, put fitting torx in hole, unscrew.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

That usually works, however you need too much force to press the torx bit into the hole to do that on sensitive electronics. That screw is probably only threaded into plastic.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Looks like it sticks out a bit. Cut a slot in it and use a flathead.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Maybe try a flat head screwdriver that'll fit diagonally across where there's some grip left?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Seconded. I've loosened many shredded screws this way.
Also, one can use a hack saw or similar to cut a slit into the screw head, that way you're more or less guaranteed to fit a flathead driver properly.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I do have a gigantic flathead but it doesn't exactly fit, though I will get one in the morning and try out your advice if I can't get it out by then. Thank you!

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Depending how tight it is you could superglue something to it to turn it ?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't really have superglue right now, and the screw looks like this far up, not sure it can be called tight or not.

(Screwdriver for comparison, couldn't really find something better.)

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

I prefer the rubber band trick first but usually when I get them down to this point I'll use a smaller flathead from a jeweler set, see if you can find something that fits in between the two opposing tines of the Philips

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It looks like you probably don't have enough edge for this, but a simple vise grip could work.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

This was my first thought also. The defcon 2 solution. If that doesn’t work, the next step is to drill it out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

A dab of super glue in the screw hole, find a screw driver you don't really care about, add a drop of superglue accelerator

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I don't know if any is small enough, but there is a tool for this if nothing else works. A damaged screw extractor.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Just unbutton it :P

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I've had good success tapping stripped the screws loose with sometring sharp and a hammer

Not sure if you can get something small and strong enough, small punch or sacrificial screwdriver might work

Here is a video of what i mean

https://youtu.be/SXNAW96O_d8?si=cxJt59PKdEOQDuqV

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

With a screw extractor, you'll find one at any hardware store.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Oooh man - you're screwed!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

If its big enough, try the rubber band trick to get some grip.

If its a tiny electronic screw, you'll have to very carefully coax it out with either some needle nose pliers by gripping the outside, or by using a slightly larger screwdriver head and ensuring it doesn't spin (very tricky, easy to strip screw further, using rubber band here might also help).

If the case can handle it, you can use the larger head and give it some decent amount of pressure to make sure it doesn't spin when you turn. Again be careful, because pushing too hard could break the case.

You might have to inch it fractions of a turn at a time to make sure it doesn't break, so it'll take a while before it becomes loose enough to spin out by hand.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Amazon search for tiny screw extractor.

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