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[–] [email protected] 99 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Commuting by plane. Out with the guillotines, off with his head.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

i doubt that there's a bigger outward sign of a gap between the rich and the rest of us when you treat a jet like it's a commuter car.

the icing on this cake is that he's never fully aware of it and will be rewarded no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

It's sad to say, but there are people that work at Amazon (IC's, not even senior or middle management) that commute by plane.

They were hired on the basis that being 100's of miles away wasn't a problem, and were then told to commute to their nearest office 3x a week (now 5x). For many, spending their money on a commute is preferable to being unemployed, so some employees spend 3+ hours a day commuting, or fly in and get a taxi/train to the office.

It's obviously not to this level, but RTO initiatives make people do stupid shit in order to stay employed...

[–] [email protected] 72 points 3 months ago

I hope the corporate jet is a Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Imagine having a job so fucking braindead easy you can live 1000 miles away and only show up three days out of the week.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

CEO must be the fucking easier job over there, given that they are a lot of people that are CEO's of multiple companies at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

The only two requirements are being good at lying and believing your own bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (3 children)

Presumably this is more of a c/fuck_planes, because there’s no way he’s driving (19 hours nonstop) or taking a train (28–32 hours).

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago

It says he's taking the corporate jet and he has to be in Seattle at least 3 days a week

This fucking asshole

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago

Of course not. They've chartered a private plane for him to fly to the office three times a week.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Y'all would be surprised at how common this has become. I have worked for or with several startups and medium-sized businesses where the company was paying for flights from the other side of the country every week and a corporate apartment or hotel for executives to stay at before flying home for the weekend.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

No money for salaries, the private jet lease and corporate penthouse really dig into our profits. Work harder and maybe we can afford a bigger jet!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A friend of mine just got a secretary job for a smallish company and I was surprised to learn that they fly the entire office around on a private jet sometimes just for shits and giggles.

It is kind of infuriating knowing that people are giving up meat and riding their bike in the rain to reduce their carbon foot print while the capitalist class gives zero fucks about our planet because they think their bunkers will save them.

But the rich forgot who built their bunkers. When the shit hits the fan, those workers who built the bunkers won't have any trouble pouring concrete over the air vents. We're all in this together and either we all work together to beat climate change or no one will survive climate change.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 3 months ago (3 children)

I don't get why he'd do that. That's a nearly 3 hour commute each way, so about 5-6 hours in the air each day.

Add to that, a charter jet company quotes the price for that flight at ~$18,000 each way. Maybe reduce the cost of that flight in half, but the yearly bill for transportation alone is going to be in the range $25,000,000+ per year. No CEO is that valuable.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Where does $25M come from? ~260 work days in a year, and using the full 18k each way, is a little under $10M: $18,000×2×260 = $9,360,000

Still a ridiculous transportation bill, of course...

Edit: I think you increased the 18k by a factor of two instead of decreased, and used all 360 days instead of weekdays: $18,000×2×2×360 =$25.92M

[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 months ago

Are you a teacher?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago

You're assuming he's going to the office everyday. He's going to work from home 4 days a week some weeks maybe all the 5 days.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Add to that, a charter jet company quotes the price for that flight at ~$18,000 each way. Maybe reduce the cost of that flight in half, but the yearly bill for transportation alone is going to be in the range $25,000,000+ per year. No CEO is that valuable.

That is sort of like arguing that "no medieval Duke or Baron is that valuable." Guys as rich as him are part of the owning class. They live in a completely different world than the rest of us and most of those positions are decided by nepotism. The MBAs working under the C-suite do all the real work of managing the company while the C-suite types fly around the world, play golf, party on yachts, etc.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 months ago

That'll last 6 months and then he will quietly get an exemption to work from home

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 months ago (1 children)

@technocrit

Tell me why i don't like Starbucks...

First... Starbucks killed my beloved "Kaffehaus"-culture in vienna.

Now this.

I bought only one fucking coffee there in my whole live. It's years ago. And it will be the only one in my live.

#FuckStarbucks

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

@technocrit

Oh... and Starbucks is master of tax avoidance

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I know these vampires hate humanity and life itself, but I'll never fully understand why they need to personally show up at great environmental expense to micromanage everything too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Simple. 1. They have to show up to keep up the illusion that the company needs them. 2. They get off to bossing people around. How are they supposed to feel big and powerful if they can't see us grovel and jump up to please their every whim?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Had a VP who was forced to do this (but with commercial flights) 15ish years ago. It was hell and she quit after 4 months. Management was surprised due to their inability to understand people or reality.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like she made the mistake of trying to do her job herself rather than delegating all the work to her underlings like most execs do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Nailed it. She was notorious for that.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 months ago

Imagine the CEO demanding the quarterlies from you in one of these bad boys.

Imagine the CEO coming at you in one of these

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

someone do the math on his one-trip emissions and compare it to the average commute

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

He'll superpollute

Might as well use Zoom instead

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Niccol successfully negotiated a similar deal when he became the CEO of Chipotle in 2018.

At the time, the fast-casual chain was headquartered in Denver, Colorado ... Chipotle moved its headquarters from Denver to Newport Beach three months after announcing Niccol’s appointment.

Checking out Newport Beach there's a John Wayne Airstrip right there, 5 minute drive. Will probably fly out of that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They just INSIST that we eat them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Because he's a special boy