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Lots more good stuff with citations in the article, but this bit really ties it all together:

 

The right-wing obsession over racial demographics becomes obvious in the “pro-natalism” movement, which advocates for conservatives to have more children to take control of society. The mission of the movement is “to build an army of like-minded people, starting with their own children, who will reject a whole host of changes wrought by liberal democracy,” according to a fascinating recent story in Politico.

For the right wing, pro-natalism means looking for every possible means to increase the white percentage of the nation’s population. Through this lens, it’s not hard to see why Republicans remain virulently anti-immigration and strictly opposed to abortion.

Those two issues may appear unrelated, but in fact Republican positions on both stem at least in part from white demographic fears. Republicans want to halt the rise in the nonwhite population by curbing immigration. At the same time, they hope their abortion bans will boost domestic birth rates — staving off white demographic decline. They also want to ban contraceptives and no-fault divorce, forcing women to stay in marriages and have more children.

The Republican Party’s white nationalism is often justified in religious terms, since much of this agenda designed to enhance white power stems from the party’s Christian fundamentalist base. Along with Protestant evangelicals, the Republican religious base now includes fundamentalist Catholics, who stridently oppose abortion.

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[–] [email protected] 110 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Racism is the only reason why the entire Republican party is so popular

[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LBJ nailed how the Republican party gets poor people to vote against their financial interests. It’s all hatred of the other (black people, women, gays…etc)

If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago

I firmly believe that every person should have that printed on a card in their pocket, and refer to it every time Trump or a Republican says something.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

We cannot allow them to take the term “pro-natalist” because it allows them to paint anybody who disagrees as “anti.“ Just like they can claim anybody who isn’t “pro life” is “anti-life.“ People need to stop giving them these PR wins.

“We’re for family values” = I am against families

“We’re for law and order” = I am against it

It forces us non-weirdos to introduce the nuance of what their terms actually mean which is a losing prospect.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Interesting thought. Do you have suggestions on how to counter nationalists seizing the label "pro-natalist"?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Eugenicists, replacement theory advocates. Or just settle for bigots

We are anti-eugenics

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

You can use an alternative term like “anti-choice” while reporting on them. You can also insist on defining the term whenever you use it. “Pro- natalists, who believe that unwilling women should be forced to give birth”, something like that.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The Republican Party’s white nationalism is often justified in religious terms, since much of this agenda designed to enhance white power stems from the party’s Christian fundamentalist base.

Wait til they learn that Jesus wasn't white

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And nothing says "love thy neighbor" like racial supremacism.

Their white supremacist, conservative, hateful, supply-side Jesus is weird. I'm an atheist but I much prefer the hippie, anti-materialist, socialist, anti-establishment Jesus I was grew up hearing about.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Heh. 😀

They think an election was stolen and that climate change and covid are hoaxes, so I'm doubtful they are capable of believing that no matter what evidence was provided.

When someone believes those things, it's probably not even the work of their conscious mind to just dismiss it out of hand when someone tells them Jesus wasn't white.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Trump's helicopter story is a different black dude:

“Willie is the short Black guy living in San Francisco,” Holden said. “I’m a tall Black guy living in Los Angeles.

“I guess we all look alike,” Holden told POLITICO, letting out a loud laugh.

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Trump’s absolutely losing it, and we’re seeing his flailing and failing brain on display more everyday.

My theory on why he thinks Kamala “was Indian” and “turned Black one day” is that he’s fully confused Nikki Haley and Kamala Harris in his brain, and has conflated the two into one person.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And that's even scarier because we'll get rabid pro-life Vance who's going to wage a literal war on women and childless.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

His wife looks like he ate her life force

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Oh actually yeah maybe. Or JD Vance's wife who is also Indian.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So, what color is Trump? White or orange? He needs to make up his mind. I'm confused.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Racism is a reason because the working class, or useful idiots from other classes, are abused and exploited by robber barons who need a scapegoat and distraction.

Most republican policies have been and continue to be hostile towards the working class. So what’s a convenient way to distract from that? Oh hey, that other poor fuck exactly like you is the reason I am stealing from you.

There’s no war but class war.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

It's always "Immigrants stole your job" and never "The CEO hired an immigrant instead of you".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

More like, the ceo doesn’t pay a living wage to immigrants or non immigrants alike. Immigrants are not necessarily cheaper, fyi. American workers need to unionize, it’s ridiculous that there aren’t more unions.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

and the politician gave them a special visa for it that the employer can boot them out with for any reason, so they can treat them worse and pay them less

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Transphobia is more publicly visible in his base.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

That's because many of them are old enough to remember a time when you were supposed to be quiet about your racism because you knew the rest of society would shame you for it.

Unfortunately, America has never reached the point where a majority of people felt shame about their transphobia, so in their minds it's okay to be more open about that.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

That's a fair point!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago

He gave someone for people to hate.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That and there is just a huge amount of stupid lemmings that are dumb as rocks.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Everyone including the media paint a picture that's it's just Trump .... it's just his followers ... it's just a political party ....

None of what they are doing or saying would be possible without the full support and financing of very wealthy and rich elites.... and none of it would be possible without the support and sometimes encouragement, acceptance and justification of a very pliable media, who are all owned by the same wealthy and rich elites.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How's the saying go? "There's no war but class war?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We reject all war except for class war is the sentiment.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Why does he insist on wearing such comically long ties?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

Iirc long ties are supposed to make the wearer look slimmer, elongated, slinky or swift.

But the red makes it stick out too much, turning the intended positive effect into void.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His suits are comically large as well. Almost like he's stuck in the past.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

he is, in more ways than one

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Huh, you don’t say. Racist?

/s (just in case)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how well this even works. I've seen a lot of folks who grew up in weird cults who rejected the whole thing.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Generally speaking, you're more likely to stay within a cult your were born in than joining one you weren't. Having as many children as possible is cult founding 101.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

But for every one of them, how many of their peers are still in it? I'm the only one from my generation who got out of my terrible religious upbringing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I don't know. It's a legitimate question because for every story I hear about people walking away, how many stayed and never told their stories. That's not a question I'm in a position to answer, just pose.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

He stoked the flames of racism because Obama won the election and built up a nice little cult out of that. Dude got clowned by Obama at a white house correspondence dinner and it hurt is feewings

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If they want to stop non-whites from becoming the majority, then why oppose abortion and birth control? All the non-white people already here will have more kids too. Do they not understand that?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I think this every time it comes up. But maga logic never really works, there's no point in looking for consistency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I think this article has an important message that needs repeating, but I don't buy this angle from it. Empowering men to control women has always been a simpler argument. Cultural reinforcement of "traditional" family and gender roles stem back to that, too.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

"Pro-natalism" huh? Gee, I wonder where they got that idea from... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

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