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After nearly a decade of being forced to take Trump seriously, Democrats increasingly call BS on the whole charade

Sure, Donald Trump is a threat to democracy — a would-be dictator on day one who has called for terminating the U.S. Constitution so he can hold onto power even after losing a free and fair election. But while draped in the rhetoric of populism, Trump and his MAGA movement are not actually popular; the man himself has never won more votes than the person he ran against, a majority of Americans twice rejecting him and his off-putting cult of personality. That he was ever president is more or less because a few thousand swing voters in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania thought it would be fun.

President Joe Biden won in 2020 largely by promising to a return to normalcy and baseline competency. In 2024, Democrats are making a similar argument but more forcibly: They’re pointing, laughing and dismissing Trump and his circus as a total freak show to which we can’t return.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I find it quite strange that "old and weird" seems to work better than "corrupt and criminal".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Probably for 2 reasons:

  1. quote "all politicians are corrupt and criminal" so this tactic doesn't land (look at the dem senator from NJ)

  2. few people know convicted felons but they do know "old and weird" people, so they can better draw personal parallels

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think the "weird" attribution has a way of infecting his supporters as well.

If you support a criminal, that doesn't necessarily make you a criminal. If you support a corrupt politician, that doesn't make you a corrupt politician.

But if you support somebody weird? Well that makes you weird. Trump's weirdness infects you. It's the cheese touch of politics.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

For a decade now there has been a certain crowd who considers Trump’s criminality and general disregard for truth to be cool in a “gangster” way. Gangsters are leaders.

Weirdos, not so much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Republicans are so old... and just soo weird.

And trump doesn't laugh or have a dog?

There's a lot of other very bad things going on, but they are also just... They're just so fucking weird?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does he have a cat? If you have the resources to have people take care of all the minor annoyances of having a loving furry friend (dog or cat) that you can call your own and still simply choose not to - you are fucking weird.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

He doesn't like animals. Remember when he was almost eaten by a bald eagle? And he's strangely phobic of sharks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Doesn't like animals, doesn't drink due to dead alcoholic brother (Fair enough.), only eats fast food due to a fear of poisoning

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38651623

https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-loves-mcdonalds-afraid-of-being-poisoned-2018-1

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

only eats fast food due to a fear of poisoning

That's like wearing a suit of armor during a thunderstorm because you're afraid of being hit by lightning.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Breath of the Wild taught me this is a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Doesn't exercise because he thinks people are powered by batteries

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/15/politics/donald-trump-exercise/index.html

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Animals are good judges of character. No wonder they hate him.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Laughter is a great weapon, as even the Irish Bards of old knew. And the plus point is that it is true, they are old and weird. They want to go round inspecting children's genitals.....definitely weird. They rather mothers die than get medical treatment in an event of a dangerous pregnancy. Likewise, they think child marriages are OK. They think forcing women to have babies is OK but passing laws to help those babies live is not. They want to go back in time and roll back all the progress society has made in being kinder, fairer and more inclusive. They love conspiracies and think they have special secret knowledge . There is so much more,I hope someone turns it all into a catchy song that goes viral.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

There's two sides to that.

Some of them are like tucker Carlson or Boris Johnson. They look ridiculous on purpose so that's what people talk about instead of the horrendous shit they're advocating for.

So by all means laugh at them, it hurts their follower count. But don't outright dismiss them.

They might be stupid and weird that doesn't make them less dangerous

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If you say so. Weird Al Yankovic is a fan favorite of many old people. I can perfectly see people wearing “Old and weird” purposely. There’s no shortage of old people wearing edgy T-shirts, specially in the Trump crowd.

I'm no psychologist, but the irony of praising being called "brat" while touting calling the opposition "weird" makes me feel like I'm back in preschool. These lowered bars, man ... definitely on our way to surpassing Idiocracy.