Should we buy Mozilla?
this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2024
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Which would ironically give even more monopoly over how the web is viewed to Google. Chrome and Firefox are just about the only two players in that space right now.
No they're not, there's safari and Edge. Don't forget about opera.
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Sorry. I'm having a hard time keeping a straight face while I say that....
Opera and Edge are Chromium based. Even most of the alternatives are still Google controlled.
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Why does this percentage keep going up? Who keeps inflating the numbers? The first time I heard about this, it was like 64%. Then 77%. Now 81%?! Tomorrow, I'm gonna see a meme stating 97% of Mozilla's income is from Google.
The actual numbers are $510MM/y from Google out of $593MM/y total revenue. So 86% if my math is correct. It's bonkers how dependent on a single deal they are.
Are they dependent?
All I see is Google throwing a fuck tonne of money at them, and Mozilla spaffing it on pointless crap. They could probably raise more if Google went away, but they could also reduce spend significantly if they didn't have stupid money get thrown at them.
Its like giving your kids $100 a day. Sure they could blow it on pay to win games, but what would happen if you reduced it to $10 a day? Probably nothing of note, just less spending on crap.
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it's not like they used the money to improve the fucking browser anyway
Oh no, they will have to stop paying their CEO a ridiculous amount of money. TRAGIC.
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I wonder if German govt. funds Mozilla
something like the sovereign tech fund for gnome
tax money should improve public infrastructure and Firefox is digitally doing that
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I doubt they would make Google stop paying Mozilla. That would make Google more of a monopoly
Google pays because Firefox has Google as the default search engine. That deal is where the problem lies.
I sincerely hope that is what's going to happen and Mozilla gets severely fucked over for how they have been running their shit. Break their business and rethink from scratch how we run and finance the development of one of the most important pieces of software around. Hint: You're not going to be competitive with big tech by copying their practices, marketing "AI" bullshit and pocket and all that crap. You can't compete with google there, they can always outspend you.
As a Linux user, such a break would also be very timely, now that we have survived the painful surgeries of systemd and wayland. Those problems are mostly fixed, so we need another dysfunctional troublemaker - Firefox it is!
But seriously: The official story is always that google gives Mozilla the money to be the default search engine. But really, they don't need to care. Google needs Firefox so they can pretend they don't have a browser monopoly. For similar reasons, google used to employed 10000s of people who were doing very much non-essential stuff that is entirely irrelevant for their business. They could have fired them all long ago, and massively increased their profitability. But those would have looked obscene and raises regulators' attention. So just hiring a bunch of expensive engineers who build google chat 23.0 and whatever makes them appear more like a "normal" company.
We completely agree, Mozilla should not be run like it is i.e. a Tech Startup and should allow donations to Firefox directly.
It should become a worker owned co-op as that would make a lot of things better in the long run.
It's been clear for a while now, their current way of operating just isn't going to work and hasn't been, especially since they're adding rubbish no-one wants or needs e.g. the private adverts thing.
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Revenue of Mozilla Corporation. Not Mozilla Foundation.