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Is there any chance the users of whatsapp will delete that app after it have ads in it ? What do you think ?

Is whatsapp deep rooted into humans soul that no changes will create hate to whatsapp ? Are everyone living in a subconcious state ?

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[–] [email protected] 107 points 11 months ago (2 children)

We need to realise that WE ARE A MINORITY. Most people do not give a single shit about ads and go about their lives

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I keep offering my partner a way out via either a pi hole or (my current setup) adguard. They literally don't want it. Why? It doesn't bother them and sometimes you have to watch the ads for perks in games. Even tried to show them that you can have per App rules etc.

But no. It's not a big deal. Using any of their devices gives me an aneurysm, I keep forgetting how bad mobile ads and browser ads are. Smh

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I used to have pi-hole setup and a housemate complained that he could no longer click on Google ads 🙄

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago

Wtf? I weep for humanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Just use a custom list for them. Or just isolate them on a different vlan.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

That’s why I don’t play mobile games at all :D

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

What do you use that allows you to set per app rules?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

I use adguard. Bought the app years ago and I couldn't be happier. It's especially great because some secure apps break with their traffic routed through it and it's super easy to configure.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

TrackerControl gives app-level control. It's FOSS & available on F-droid.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yes, tech enthusiasts are a minority and most people are tech illiterate.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

As someone who works in the tech industry. I can tell you people here are not tech illiterate, but most just dgaf about privacy when they can trade it in for convenience. That's why most of them are okay with designing apps that have zero respect to user privacy and they see nothing wrong with it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 11 months ago

Do people still use meta’s crap? Yep. They won’t stop. They don’t care.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 11 months ago

Probably not, one of the many family members are old and doesn't care about ads or privacy. Some people will never leave no matter how bad the app is. Thank goodness I'm not one of them

[–] [email protected] 20 points 11 months ago

No. Some will, most won’t.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

No. Not even I can delete Whatsapp. If you have the phone number of anyone on planet earth, then you can be certain that they can be reached on Whatsapp. In some countries people will not check their SMS app, but will check Whatsapp.

Telling people to contact you using other platforms doesn't matter, they'll just text you less often, and will most likely not see your messages, because people tend to clear their notification panel very often, and check the messages they got by opening Whatsapp at some point of the day.

Telegram has been successful in some Asian countries, especially Arabic ones, but still, not comparable to Whatsapp. Even though I prefer signal, I convinced a lot of people to switch to Telegram, just because fuck Facebook (Meta).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 11 months ago

WhatsApp is where their friends are, and most people don’t realize the benefits of federated communication protocols like XMPP, so they won’t change.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 months ago

Most people won't even notice

[–] [email protected] 9 points 11 months ago

Deleting and not using are completely different.

Also most non-American, non-Chinese people are complelty dependent on WhatsApp for messaging so, to answer your question, no. They will neither delete nor stop using.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I hope this will be good:

https://wedistribute.org/2023/08/sup-by-pixelfed-is-coming/

Then I can also get rid of Signal and Skype.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

Of course not. They install Facebook that has one ad every two posts, ads in WhatsApp is nothing

[–] [email protected] 8 points 11 months ago

I think they will if Whatsapp starts pushing full-screen, malicious/video ads which are unskippable. It takes a lot to get people to change, but once you reach a tipping point, people will dump you ASAP. However, Meta is somewhat smart, so I wouldn't bet against people leaving so fast

[–] [email protected] 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Network effect will likely be stronger to the masses than the minority who will be annoyed by the ads enough to leave the platform.

Not exactly up to date on the subject, will there be an option to pay to avoid ads?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

No, the network effect is too strong. Deleting WhatsApp is cutting off the primary/only way to contact many friends (in countries where it's the primary messenger), and a mild form of "abandon everything and go live in a monastery".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 months ago

My friends and colleagues won't stop using WhatsApp, even with full screen ads.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

Is whatsapp deep rooted into humans soul that no changes will create hate to whatsapp ? Are everyone living in a subconcious state ?

That's a bit melodramatic, isn't it? Humans are creatures of habit. They have an app all their contacts are on, why should they change apps then? What you can do is sneakily install a different messenger app on your relative's phones and write them through that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 11 months ago

I can’t delete something I never installed.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I moved back to Spain after 9 years abroad. I discovered this country runs on WhatsApp. Not a chance this will change in the short term.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

same in Turkey

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago

i have escaped Facebook but have to use viber