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my family is moving into a much bigger house than we used to have. we use amazon echos as an intercom system through the announcement feature. because our house is bigger, i’m being forced to get one myself for my room. i haven’t needed one for years because i use their app on my phone and i can see their announcements as a notification and i can also kill off most of its tracking by DNS. unfortunately my parents don’t understand this and are forcing me to get one. what can i do to limit its tracking?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Give em the ol' Blizzard treatment;

Don't you guys have phones?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

sorry for asking a question about privacy in a privacy community. i can’t just not use it because my parents are forcing me to use it. if i was allowed to unplug it, i would.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Do it anyways. Everyone has a right of privacy no matter the age.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

You should hire a nicely-dressed and polite person to simply relay your messages in person. And while not needed, they could be tending to other tasks, like your laundry or maybe tending the garden...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Jeff? Is that you, son? I told you that it was nonnegotiable, now get off the internets, I'm expecting an important telephone call and don't want you tying up the lines.

While there are a lot of good technical suggestions here, I've found that a conversation goes a long way. In my experience, when talking with loved ones, explain your emotions. Not "I hate this" or "the governments are listening!", but those core emotions. "Having a device in my room that is always monitoring me makes me feel anxious and I don't feel comfortable in a place where I should feel safe." Make sure that the dialog is calm and remains about your feelings until you know that you're being heard. If you aren't, try other phrases or examples.

Once you've established your feelings, address their concerns and feelings (active listening). It sounds stupid at first, but it works. "I hear that you are frustrated when I don't come down for dinner immediately." Finally, propose some solutions that meet everybody's needs and that the parties can select one to try out for a week and evaluate it's effectiveness, trying new things until a mutually beneficial solution is found.

Good luck. Please post the outcome!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"Sorry mom and dad, half the house and your wealth is mine now."

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it would be a spouse

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

OP lives with their parents.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You can just read his post to find out.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Nope, the post doesn't say.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

My brother in high, are you christ?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

buddy i would if i could. unfortunately they are forcing me to have it on at all times. which is why im asking for suggestions

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Put together a privacy and security presentation.

Does your family use password managers? (And dear god not Lastpass, with their breech a couple years ago).

What do your parents do if one is incapacitated? The self-hosting community has discussions on managing this.

This is a great opportunity for you to learn a lot of stuff and show your parents how to approach security and privacy.

Start with understanding their needs... Truly understanding, take your time. Solutions can always be found later, once the requirements are well understood.

As an aside, as someone likely old enough to be your grandparent, I can't imagine needing an intercom in a house. Some of my family had them growing up, and found it to be not nearly as useful as they thought it would be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does your family use password managers? (And dear god not Lastpass, with their breech a couple years ago).

What is the recomended password manager right now? Currently I still have google storing all my passwords but I'm working on degoogling so that will have to go at some point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I personally use bitwarden. I like it because it has a flow of cash from corporate users paying for hosting that funds development meaning I know how they get their money. You can use Bitwarden's server if you don't need all the features or you are willing to pay or you can selfhost (which is what I do).

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Amazon doesn't want you to know this one trick