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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

They don't even need government support. They just need AnAg based products to not be subsidized by our taxes, and they'd by ahead by a mile, price wise.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I honestly don't get the point of this. Plant foods taste great, I don't need them to be further processed to taste like meat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im not sure what it is, but does anyone else feel terrible after eating these simulated meat brands? Specifically ones like Beyond and Impossible trying to simulate the exact taste

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Actually the opposite for me. Real meat has so much grease in it I often feel bloated after a burger. Beyond meat burgers are fine for me.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ya feel much cleaner in the tum. First I’ve read of aches from Beyondpossible

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Also tested long term for health effects. Don't add more packed food in my fridge

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not sure why you’re downvoted…

I enjoy a fake burger from time to time, but if we are honest, then criticizing ultra processed foods should always be fair game. These fake meats should be eaten in moderation next to a nutritionally balanced diet of mostly whole ingredients.

More from the produce section and less plastic wrapped goods.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I stand in the way by just sticking to my local farmers and butchers. But to be fair, it's not just because of fake meat. It's because of animal treatment by the food industry.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I applaude your resolution, but keep in mind that local and small scale does not mean cruelty free (even ignoring the part where they have to die). It's certainly better than factory farms, but it's not immediately good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It tastes disgusting. If plant based meat is going to get ANY traction, food companies need to find a way to make it palatable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I had some Boca burgers a couple of days ago and they were great. I like the Boca meatballs and Morning Star bacon a lot too. So, you might not like it, or maybe you haven't found the right one for you yet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im glad you found something in this line you enjoy! I do product testing for a food manufacturer, and customers have been ubiquitous in saying they hate the plant based products. So I am speaking from my professional experience.

That said, things are getting better in this world, and hopefully soon we will have good meat alternatives that are not just niche cases.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are also getting fairly biased feedback on this case, though. Realistically, I think companies like Beyond, Impossible, and Quorn have multiple product lines that give a taste and texture experience pretty damned close to their target, but people expect meat replacements to taste bad and so they do because taste is a wildly wishy-washy concept.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I am speaking from an in-house research perspective. Dont get me wrong, the marketing people wish you were right. And there are definitely products that are getting closer. But overall, consumer feedback is "bleh".

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

We don't need parasite support for GMO frankenfoods.