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Linus' thread: (CW: bigotry and racism in the comments) https://social.kernel.org/notice/AWSXomDbvdxKgOxVAm (you need to scroll down, i can't seem to link to the comment in the screenshot)

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can relate to the "how the fuck is being a concerned human being extreme/poltical?" energy in the post hard.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

That's what "being political" means. Otherwise you'd be apathetic, cynical and not concerned about anything.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Political? For everyone outside of America that's just common sense.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hello I'm a trans person from the UK here to tell you this is sadly not the case at all.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In Canada it’s starting to become “political” since our morons are egged on by the morons down south.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Politics used to be something people engaged in. Now politics is the core to a lot of people's identities, which means disagreement or debate is perceived as a personal attack and people will embrace a tremendous amount of cognitive dissonance to avoid being wrong.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Outside the US this no longer has to be political, is probably more what it really is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Linus gives exactly zero fucks about saying exactly what's on his mind. And it's almost always massively based. He's always been great about that, we don't deserve such a great mind.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Remember the time with the anti vaxxer, man was firing with all cylinders

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Seriously, we are super blessed to have him.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Holy shit a based Linus is not what I expected to see today. Makes me prefer Linux even more than I already did.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What would you use for a synonym for based? I keep seeing that used. I always thought it was just some alt-right meme bullshit, but I'm learning I was wrong. I still don't get the use. My mind always thinks "based on what?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Based" is typically used to describe someone who says/does something without caring if they'll be judged for it. Most commonly, it's shorthand for "That's a controversial opinion and you are bold for saying it, but I agree with you." It turns the previous sentence into an adjective, which is a little weird but it makes sense eventually.

So if I had to choose a single word as a synonym, I would say "Bold".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Linus has always been political and principled, I mean he chose the GPL for a reason! Glad to see him state all of this outright though, it only makes me respect him more.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see how his, very reasonable, views makes Linux itself (more?) political. What is the point of this post?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t think the title is good, but I do think it’s notable to some extent. With people having weird, shitty opinions, it’s nice to see someone who is relatively famous in the tech community for having somewhat sane opinions and being vocal about it.

In my experience, the Linux community has got its own bunch of free speech weirdos who would reject some of these political points (especially the trans position), so I do think in that context it is kind of important.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Common Linus W.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Woman right to choose, fair enough. Regulated guns, absolutely. The less guns the better. Gay people stuff, I couldn't care less. Check.

The man said it as it should be said.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

FOSS is an active political statement!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Was just coming here to say that. The entire Ethos of Open Source is basically the people owning the digital means of production. So some people really not grasp that?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So some people really not grasp that?

Actually, yes, the original FOSS movement had more right-libertarian roots than anything to the left, although nowadays some might see it as "common ground".

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The politics of folks like RMS (personal issues aside) were far above average, but the Free Software Movement was very steeped in liberalism from its onset, and that explains many of of its present shortcomings. Its biggest failing was to believe that Free Software would ultimately win on its merits. In the early days this was understandable, when free software was often playing catch-up to replicate the functionality of established commercial offerings. When the GNU project was just a C compiler you could install on proprietary UNIX systems to dick around with.

Today though, Free Software is more often than not superior to commercially available offerings, with the exception of some niche industrial segments. But still, Free Software adoption by end users remains incredibly marginal. No matter how many merits Free Software stacks in its favor, the "Year of Linux on the Desktop" never comes. We are still drowning in proprietary iOS and Android phones. The overwhelming majority of PCs still ship with Windows. All of it deliberately engineered to become E-waste in a couple of years.

Folks, this won't change unless we take over the factories where these PCs and phones are manufactured.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the only thing that continues to work on you ad-filled web site is the captcha, I’m not interested in supporting your journalism any more.

Protip: You can crash self-driving cars by purposefully misclicking during Captcha checks when they ask you to identify what is a bicycle, a car, a pedestrian, etc. Keep misclicking, your are poisoning the AI with each misclick. Just stay safe on the sidewalk.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Based but don't make Linux political

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Every human opinion is essentially "political" in some way, and is even interpreted differently be country? But open source software as a technology should not be taking any stance for or against gender, guns, rights, race, etc...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, it's not any official statement by the Linux Devs as a collective.

It's simply the personal opinion of Linus - who also happens to be the person who created Linux and still manages it.