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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cool, so the worst part of modern search engines has been made into its own standalone search engine. Very neat.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I don't get the hype around LLM, it is a terrible way to search. It has never give me anything useful on any of my search, ever.

Most of the time asking chatgpt anything non-trivial, it will just spit out gibberish that doesn't mean anything.

Who in their right mind would look at these terribly stupid thing and think: Yeah! This garbage is going to advance humanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Have you tried perplexity.ai? Using it to do some programming and it's quite good so far. It's basically LLM + Search Engines.

You can also use it to use different models (not just with ChatGPT).

Sometimes even run the code itself (Python for my case) and see if it's valid.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Oh cool! A search engine that'll give you fake URL's!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

GPT: Because nobody in their right mind would waste nukes destroying the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

@schizoidman I can't wait to use the energy requirements of a small country to search for shoes and convert from kg to lbs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Only a matter of time until someone genuinely puts glue on their pizza

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

OpenAI also confirmed it plans to integrate SearchGPT into ChatGPT down the line.

I don't understand. Isn't CGPT already just a fancy search engine?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No. ChatGPT pulls information out of its ass and how I read it SearchGPT actually links to sources (while also summarizing it and pulling information out of it's ass, presumably). ChatGPT "knows" things and SearchGPT should actually look stuff up and present it to you.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ChatGPT "knows" things and SearchGPT should actually look stuff up and present it to you.

...where do you think CGPT gets the information it "knows" from?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It’s not doing live queries at all, it just makes a statistically likely answer up from its training data

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Training data from where...?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I mean yeah it does include data scraped from the web but that is all three years old at this point. Hardly a search engine by any metric

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So, in your mind, a "search engine" isn't an engine that searches the web?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It literally doesn’t do that

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It literally does...

You just said so yourself in the comment I replied to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have kind of just been using ChatGPT 4o as my search engine, it's been working pretty well.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I wonder what the energy/environmental impact is vs a traditional search.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Completely terrible. An AI "search" takes as much electricity as hundreds to thousands of normal searches.

'AI" is TERRIBLE for climate change because they're increasing demand for electricity so much that they're keeping coal plants going that were even scheduled for decomissioning because they use A LOT of power.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This can be resolved by building the data centers to cold countries like here in Finland. Servers are very good at converting electricity to heat, and the heat can be used to heat homes.

Microsoft Azure data center in Espoo is going to heat up 60% of the city's district heating network.

Also the electricity here in Finland is one of the cleanest, like in all Nordics (hydro, wind, nuclear)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

The electricity would be better spent on heat pumps. Computers convert 100% of their electricity into heat. Heat pumps convert 200-400% of their electricity into heat.

(I'm being lose with my wording for brevity's sake)