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[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In general, I believe a two woman ticket would get fewer votes than a woman/man ticket, which would get fewer votes than any male-led ticket. The misogyny effect is strong. But it really depends a lot on the specific people.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

There are way too many Conservatives, who are … conservative

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago

Could? Possibly, sure.

Would? Why should any ticket guarantee a win based solely on arbitrary characteristics of the candidates? Nothing about being a woman, a man, trans, cis, gay, straight, bi, ace, black, white, Latino, Asian, biracial, triracial, short, tall, hirsute, bald, balding, skinny, jacked, overweight, or any other randomly chosen descriptor should be a factor in electability. The fact that it's even in question is a strong indictment of how we view politics in a broad sense.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

Considering Hillary won the popular vote, I think most people don’t consider gender very important. Or at least the people who do consider gender very important are voting Republican anyway.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Yeah, a lot of us don't do identity politics. I don't care if they're a man or woman or whatever. It could be a sentient ham sandwich for all I care.

What matters is their record and their willingness to fix things.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

gender is irrelevant

will they stand with the people or the corporations?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

A freaking men. No pun intended.

I want to see 2 things:

  1. Term limits on all gov’t elected position, including the Supreme Court and all of Congress

  2. Lobbying reform. Like massive.

If you have a good game plan to enact those two things then I’m down. I don’t care who or what you are.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Generically, no. For some specific ticket: sure, theoretically possible. But, in practice, I don't see any actual such combination that the Dems have any chance of nominating. Well I don't know anything about Whitmer, whose name I keep seeing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The democrats wouldst vote f'r aught with a D behind their nameth.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I'd vote for it but probably not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Depends on the women honestly, where Joe struggles with the shadow being old casts on his flubs, any woman who takes his place would face the same shadow being cast from being a woman.

Yes Hillary was the victim of a 40 year character assassination campaign but you cannot tell me that even half the shit that's been flung at her would have stuck were she a man.

That being said, a Harris Whitmer ticket would in either configuration do a lot to re-energize people who have begun to despair over Joe's odds.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Depends on the women, Kamala has serious baggage receiving an appointment from her lover.

Whitmer has a good bit of support, I could see a Whitmer/AOC ticket going places but it would be challenging.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No. But it won’t happen anyway. Whitmer is really the only realistic choice besides Kamala and Whitmer has said she doesn’t want the POTUS or VP nomination. It’ll likely be Kamala at the top of the ticket and one of a handful of male governors competing for the VP slot. Probably from a swing state like Shapiro or Cooper

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

She didn't say she doesn't want the office, she said she didn't want to get it via a convention coup without Biden stepping aside willingly, a sentiment that basically everyone who's been floated as a viable alternative has also expressed.

As much as we might see policy and electoral virtue in them, they're all still politicians, they'll take a promotion in an instant, but not until they think they can get it without becoming a target for party leadership.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

No. That would be trouble.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Gender is not a relevant consideration for the Democratic Party.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 months ago

Imagine genuinely thinking this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Which women? What are their voting records? What experience do they have? Can they work with the other party if they need to? Are they respected by foreign leaders?

If it's this election, are we sure putting them on the ticket will survive certain legal challenges?

Too many questions without enough answers.

Generally speaking though, no, I don't think it would happen. I would totally support it, but I think there are too many misogynists out there. On the other hand, I never thought there would be a Black president either.