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The shooter was 12 when Trump was first elected. archive

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[–] [email protected] 247 points 4 months ago (2 children)

He could be a dyed-in-the-wool GOP for six generations with no connections to any Left organization whatever.

He'll be branded as a woke Antifa with a Black trans GF who was brain washed with peyote by a Native Shaman at a Liberal college.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Article says he was registered republican, but donated $15 to a grassroots democratic group shortly after the capitol riot, so.. there you go.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago

There's a political organizer with the same name a few counties over. In 2021 the shooter was 17, and not legally able to donate in PA.

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[–] [email protected] 119 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Now THAT'S something we can regulate - politicians

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (1 children)

used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms

Fucking lol

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Who on earth thinks discord is secure? Convenient af, though

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[–] [email protected] 95 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Crooks appeared to have featured in a TV advert for the BlackRock finance company filmed at Bethel Park High School and broadcast in 2023.

I just found a breadcrumb of what will undoubtedly be my favorite conspiracy theory to come out of this.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (8 children)

I don't think enough people talk about what a boon the trump tax cuts for the rich were for the major asset management corps.

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (9 children)

Poor bastard. At 20, mental capacity is nowhere near its peak, and how bad must your life be if you are willing to throw it away for some obese self-tanning cream using orange dipshit? This is what happens when mental illnesses aren't taken serious, and treatment is not easily available.

[–] [email protected] 91 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Well, let's see

Looks at everything on fire around us

Yeah I have no clue what could have caused his life to be bad enough to do something like that!

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 months ago

You've managed to identify the highly effective, yet morally reprehensible strategy for military recruitment. Get young men when they are at peak testosterone, but have limited pre-frontal cortex development.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I knew it would be some red-hat lunatic. I fucking knew it the second I heard about it. But if course the ~~Republican~~ Nazi party are going to hammer out some left wing conspiracy horseshit using their usual tactful strategy. Which is to say scream the lies loudly, consistently, and in lockstep.

Which is, of course, is the best tactic to convince gullible idiots of anything. It's literally the "firebrand preacher" method that has been slaughtering "the other" in times of strife since the dawn of civilization.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The conspiracy might focus on the "donated to Biden" thing. Ignoring that there's a guy with the same name who is a left leaning organizer a few counties over, and the donation was in 2021, when the shooter was 17 and not legally able to donate to a candidate.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 4 months ago (11 children)

I'm actually incredibly excited to hear how the Conspiracy peddlers spin this, we'll study this level of crazy forever.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 4 months ago (19 children)

There is so much that is unknown. Everything about his true motives will, likely, be speculation forever. But it's best to let the FBI be the one that does the information reveal.

This kid was 20 though. He might have had psychosis. Last presidential assassination attempt was Hinkley. This is around the age things like schizophrenia start to present themselves IIRC. This might have been a suicide by cop type situation and he wanted to be famous in the process? Who the hell knows.

What if we had a law that you had to be 21 to buy guns though? That's in line with "common sense" gun control. I've heard Obama say that phrase countless times since Sandy Hook. It could have made this a little different, maybe? It almost certainly would have prevented Uvalde. This is political violence, it's horrible, I think this will help Trump win. Any left leaning person with half a brain can see that imo. This is also gun violence though. Gun control has to part of the answer to this. Remember who the Brady Bill was named after.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (14 children)

I understand the sentiment but I’d be a fan of having an adult age across the board.

If you can be drafted, you should be able to drink, buy guns, rent cars, vote, etc. That should all be at the same age, whatever that age is.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Last presidential assassination attempt was Hinkley.

That may just be the last one you were aware of, there have been a number of attempts since, several involving guns being fired at the president (or fired at a position the shooter thought he was)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Dudes just ignoring the shoes thrown at Bush

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago (27 children)

How did they identify him using DNA? That's a fucking red flag. Is there some database I'm not aware of? Or did he have prior arrests?

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (9 children)

There are genealogy databases that are public and or cooperate with authorities. Perhaps I’m a privacy nihilist, but IMHO, the cat’s kind of out of the bag for a lot of this. If you didn’t submit your DNA to a genealogy DB, you probably have family members that did so could see if they were 30% Italian or something.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago

That's how they caught the golden state killer. I think it was his niece submitted a DNA sample and it popped up as related to the unknown sample they had.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago

he didn't have a criminal record according to the article, but if DNA records existed for his parents, you could still identify someone as offspring with pretty high confidence based on that IIRC

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Wait, this person shot Trump? How weird, he has the same name as the kid from yesterday who shot a teleprompter.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (4 children)

John Wilkes Booth. Three names. Succeeded.

Lee Harvey Oswald. Three names. Succeeded.

John Hinkley Jr. Only two names. Failed.

Thomas Matthew Crooks. Three names. Failed.

Proof that we are living in a joke of a timeline. Can I go back and get on the right one please?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sigh… Heard about this from my partner last night. I had forgot until just a few minutes ago (special thanks to alcohol for making life bearable). Looks like I have to stay off the internet for the rest of the year.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, when the tone police pipe up with their "but tha both sides [democratic] rhetoric!" - Democrats need to tell them that: yeah, the Republicans need to stop whipping up so much violence.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Looking at that diagram showing kids position in relation to trump and the sniper that shot the kid, it's bizarre that he could get a shot off before being spotted.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Just a damn kid. No wonder he missed. Probably expected some kinda aim assist to kick in

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (5 children)

20 years old, he never owned a gun before, 130 yard shot, nicked the ear. Honestly he was closer than would have expected.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (28 children)

He went for a 360 no scope but the fkn' joycon drift sent him off course. Sad.

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