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Public outrage is mounting in China over allegations that a major state-owned food company has been cutting costs by using the same tankers to carry fuel and cooking oil – without cleaning them in between.

The scandal, which implicates China’s largest grain storage and transport company Sinograin, and private conglomerate Hopefull Grain and Oil Group, has raised concerns of food contamination in a country rocked in recent decades by a string of food and drug safety scares – and evoked harsh criticism from Chinese state media.

It was an “open secret” in the transport industry that the tankers were doing double duty, according to a report in the state-linked outlet Beijing News last week, which alleged that trucks carrying certain fuel or chemical liquids were also used to transport edible liquids such as cooking oil, syrup and soybean oil, without proper cleaning procedures.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (20 children)

Sure, China is a dictatorship, but in return they are:

  • Just as corrupt in industry.

  • In Decline from their once amazing rate of people exiting poverty.

  • Losing all of their trade partners.

  • Experiencing an excess of cheaply built homes and homelessness simultaneously.

  • Are being forced out of the global tech economy.

  • Fully reliant on Russian Oil.

  • More likely to enter new wars every day.

  • Incapable of managing their own agriculture sector.

If that is all it takes to get rid of landlords...

shrugs

[–] [email protected] 52 points 4 months ago (2 children)

China is a dictatorship, but ultracapitalist with fewer regulations. They do crack down occasionally. Source: lived there. It is both a capitalist and communist shitshow.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (23 children)

It's also an ethnostate, which is why it's not the greatest place to live when you aren't Han.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (66 children)

Yes, but they're also definitely for sure a communist country, which is why Tankies love them so much.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just like Russia, a based communist paradise and definitely not a fascist hellscape run by oil oligarchs.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

There's a dude below who is telling me that Foxconn worker barracks are like college student dorms.

College student dorms:

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (3 children)

You have been banned from Lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I thought you were riffing off r/pyongyang, but holy shit

https://imgur.com/a/6qsNcZj

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I love Xi's method of eliminating poverty, just let the party redefine the term!

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 4 months ago (9 children)

And that's not even the most disgusting thing related to cooking oil in China...

https://youtu.be/zrv78nG9R04

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't even have to click to recognize that you more than likely linked to the video about people turning raw sewage into cooking oil.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 4 months ago (7 children)

Last major Chinese food poisoning scandal I'm aware of, that killed 8 babies, resulted in 2 executions, 3 life-in-prisons (including the CEO), and 7 government officials getting fired.

They take this shit seriously. Wonder how it'll shake out.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 months ago (8 children)

They take getting caught seriously, not the stuff they get caught at. Remember the government essentially has its finger in every pie so this kind of thing is not bad because it endangered people’s lives, it’s bad because it makes them look bad and might impact their exports.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They take getting caught seriously, not the stuff they get caught at.

This is it exactly. They (gov) literally don't care if anyone gets hurt, they just care what the world's perception of them is.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (11 children)

It's a shame when China takes things more seriously than the western world.

Like, a there's a million reasons to hate them, but how they deal with companies endangering lives isn't one of them.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (21 children)

Kind of. It depends on how egregious it is. Companies endangering lives by pitting melamine in mile - jail. Foxconn endangering lives by overworking people in work camps - 👨‍🦯

But I definitely give you that some of the more egregious cases are taken more seriously than in the west.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (11 children)

Nooooo, it's all Western lies!

  • lemmy tankies
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[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (6 children)

Some heads will literally roll for this. Is embezzlement worth death penalty?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In the US it would be a fine equal to 5% of one year's profits, spread over a 10 year period

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I don't think so, companies usually gets away with it unless related something anti nationalist like Japan.

Tsingtao: Video shows Chinese beer worker urinating into tank https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-67191242

The guy who recorded the video of the guy pissing in the beer got in trouble for "disturbing the peace"

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (23 children)

China is collapsing before our very eyes, and it's already too late to turn things around. There's literally nothing that the CCP can do to get themselves out of this hole. The demographics are cooked, the economics are cooked, the public infrastructure is cooked, the foreign policy is cooked, the domestic politics are cooked, their environments are cooked, and the list goes on and on. China is one big clusterfuck right now and we should watch everything as it unfolds and take notes on it. China's downfall is going to be the biggest and most devastating self inflected collapse in history.

We should also do the same with Russia because they're also collapsing as we speak and it might be the end of Russia as a multiethnic empire for good. We're living in interesting times people

[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I'm the first one to hate on the CCP, but people have been saying that China is going to collapse anytime now for 20 years.

The demographics are a real problem, but nothing that will cause an immediate collapse. Housing, youth unemployment and inequality are real imminent issues, but the CCP has survived much worse and I think they will survive this as well.

Economical they have made some good bets, investing in solar and batteries, for that alone we should hope they don't collapse, it would be a setback of several years or maybe decades.

I believe China will more go the way of Japan, stagnate but not collapse.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 4 months ago (7 children)

This sounds very close to the description of the US in this very moment. From an outsiders perspective China seems to be doing about as good and bad as the US all things considered.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The US Supreme court also just overturned Chevron deference. Shit sucks everywhere.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (6 children)

I dont understand how your post has so many up votes when you said not a single specific thing. Can you explain any of the reasons you say China is obviously in a death spiral?

Is it just a feelings based thing from reading posts on here?

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

.ML working mods in overtime.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Profits over people's wellbeing as they say in China.

Very related story Poop suction truck carried drinking water

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