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‘There wasn’t enough about the horror’: Hiroshima survivors react to Oppenheimer (www.theguardian.com)
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Film about ‘father of the atomic bomb’ finally opens in Japan after being delayed by outrage at ‘Barbenheimer’ memes

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

That's probably why the movie was titled Oppenheimer and not Hiroshima & Nagasaki, because the movie was focused on the man and his work and the regrets that came from that work, while nations celebrated the end of a second World War.

This movie was the type of movie that was always going to upset someone, and while it sucks that Japanese citizens were killed, their Emperor's military might was a brutally murderous raping scourge set loose on that section of the world, while also working with some of the other worst regimes of the world. Overall Japan fucked around and attacked first, did a lot of horrible shit to many different peoples, made some truly horrible friends, and then found out in one of the most devastating ways possible, I feel bad for the innocent civilians, but it was always ever going to end the way it did, if not a lot worse.

I'm just glad Japan grew to be what it is now and that it chose better ways to engage with the world than more attempts at domination, even though Anime, Manga, video games, and more have dominated the world's hearts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

but it was always ever going to end the way it did, if not a lot worse.

This takeaway is mythologization of America's most reprehensible act.

While a majority of Americans may not be familiar with this history, the National Museum of the U.S. Navy in Washington, D.C., states unambiguously on a plaque with its atomic bomb exhibit: “The vast destruction wreaked by the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the loss of 135,000 people made little impact on the Japanese military. However, the Soviet invasion of Manchuria … changed their minds.”

The principal argument mounted to justify the use of atomic bombs — that they would quickly end the war and avoid an invasion that could result in as many as one million casualties — doesn’t hold much weight. Instead, historical evidence more strongly indicates America’s desire to circumvent the need for negotiations with the Soviet Union over the future of East Asia. The Potsdam Conference, held by Allied leadership in the summer of 1945, aimed to determine the postwar settlement in Europe. The United States did not want to be forced into similar negotiations — with the Soviets at the table — for the postwar settlement of the Pacific.

We murdered 210,000 civilians because of a perceived threat to capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

While I'm not defending the use of the bombs as bargaining chips, Japan would have suffered the same fate as Germany under Soviet rule. North Japan and South Japan, alongside a Tokyo Wall, would have not been just a "threat to capitalism".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

So it's better to melt the faces off of hundreds of thousands of innocent people than to risk a two state solution?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Few people know about the barbaric shit the Japanese did during WW2. Some really... Really fucked up shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 5 months ago

Bruh, Unit 731 is a meme at this point.