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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why is NATO helping these guys if they can't get their shit together?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ask yourself what the alternative is and what a successful outcome for Russia will enable for Putin! Then ask yourself what that means for Europe. Finally ask yourself what upheaval of a European market will do to an American economy and America’s ability to make its influence felt across the world.

Helping Ukraine is far cheaper.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can finance this slaughter yourself, thank you very much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t know which country you think I’m from, but all the countries I have a citizenship in are financing Ukraine plenty.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

I know, mine as well, which is a total shame!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can finance this slaughter right now, or you can finance your own slaughter later.

Your choice.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Indeed, but I would much rather finance the other side...

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's not 'helping', it's using generations of Ukrainian men for draining Russian resources and manpower. US provoked this war and they want to prolong it as much as possible because it drains Russia and the EU.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

or it couldve been russia being such a shitty neighbor that ukrainians are tired of dealing with them. so ukraine has a revolution and turns westward.

who could figure out why when the country was being looted by putins puppet. or russia invades its neighbors many times before 2014 and 2022. why wouldnt they want to be another vassal state to russia again?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would US cheerily let Mexico or Canada join e.g. Warsaw pact or present-day CSTO? I sure as hell believe they would intervene militarily. Look at what happened during the Cubon missile crisis. It puts the westoid rambling about 'crazy Russia' in a proper perspective, doesn't it?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

we wouldnt put them in a position to consider it. were all too reliant on each other.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what Russia and Ukraine thought, until US started to interfere. It took them 20+ years to finally ignite the war.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

right. so thats why russia invaded to "denazify" ukraine. sure buddy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kiev regime is openly nazi by promoting banderism and nazi ideology. They even have nazi insignia (wolfsangel) used for official military units. Not to mention nazi insignia running rampant in all sorts of units and even swastikas and balkenkreuzes on military vehicles and such.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Sure sure whatever you say.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is this Ukraine’s war, or America’s?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unnecessarily reductionist/antagonistic. If you had read the article, you would've known that the Ukrainians themselves agree with the point. And despite what the title says, the U.S. isn't the only of Ukrainian's western partners that thinks a change of strategy in order. This war might be fought primarily by the Ukrainians, but it's also very clearly a collective responsibility of the western world order.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The truth will never be reductionist.

collective responsibility of the western world order.

ie- capitalist imperialism.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Such a bog-standard whataboutism that I couldn't even be bothered to roll my eyes anymore. Thanks for showing your true colors.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Your welcome. My colors are red and black.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

American soldiers are in Ukraine? So we’re okay with Proxy Wars now? Further reading.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So 'Bahmut holds' wasn't a viable strategy after all???