Not being represented != being systematically killed off
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It's not just lack of representation though. The UK is removing trans people's access to the healthcare that allows them to live a tolerable life.
And that is a very serious issue that I feel deeply for and want to help them overcome it.
But it's not a fucking genocide.
The government literally covered up the massive leap in suicides since banning trans care for youths.
Bit more than not being represented.
UN definition of genocide: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
Although you can't technically genocide trans people because they're not one of the special groups outlined in the definition, you don't actually need to kill people to commit a genocide. I would argue that there is "intent to destroy, in whole or in part" trans people by "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group" and "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part". By taking away healthcare and other accommodations, serious harm is caused to trans people. Couple this with the high suicide rates of bullied and marginalised trans people, one could argue that the lawmakers are intending to kill trans people (although I personally wouldn't go that far)
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How is lack of healthcare = Not being represented?
You are making a strawman argument, there is much more to it than not being represented.
By that logic, all US Citizens are victims of ongoing genocide.
Genocides are a real thing that are really happening to people across the world, you can't just make it mean something less than it is in good conscience.
Trans people are losing access to healthcare in disproportionate ways, and unless you're literally the dumbest person alive or have never read a news headline... you know that they are. Your disingenuous denial contributes to the problem. You are contributing to genocide.
Cough HIV in the 80s cough
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We're about to face a not so silent one in the US too :(
Terf island going to terf
'genocide' lol
What kind of trash tier journalism is this. Genocide is a real, serious issue. You can't just call something a genocide metaphorically, that's incredibly disrespectful.
Lack of healthcare and lack of rights and protections that are common for other minorities, together with a huge deal of oppression, often violence and sometimes murder, is absolutely a kind of genocide, and in no way disrespectful to other forms of genocide.
I’m gay. And this isn’t genocide. You could use hate, bigotry, segregation possibly, but genocide requires death, not “sometimes death,” and it’s the whole group, not just the ones who cannot defend themselves. Rich LGBT in the UK are doing just fine.
Genocide is the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
If a transsexual can't have proper healthcare, it can in fact result in death, that is very real.
Another thing that's real is that they are treated so poorly in general that they have the highest suicide rate by far of any minority.
Finally many choose not to live as the gender they wish they could, because it's too problematic even dangerous. Even if this isn't a physical death, it is killing the existence of people that can live their life as transgender.
Much the same way as the Iranian president when he visited New York some years ago, claimed that Iran did not have homosexuals, so there was no oppression of them.
A completely ridiculous claim we know is biologically impossible, and we know is false because they seek refuge in the west.
And we know Iran executes people for being homosexual, which of course is the ultimate genocide of homosexuals.
Or will you deny that too?
https://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=3642673
Iranian president says country has no gays
Yeah rich Jews could leave Germany.
Not every oppressed Group of people can be compared to the Jews in Nazi Germany. 6 million trans people aren’t being killed they just have dubious health Coverage. Don’t get me wrong, history won’t look kindly on that.
There is ongoing genocide in Gaza, the number of people killed is nowhere near 6 million. It's not about the numbers, it's about the systemic attempt to make a group of people not exist.
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Hhhmmm... Not very genocide of people aren't being rounded up and executed, and not very silent if there's news articles talking about it.
Sensationalist crap.
That's not what genocide means. You can't come up with your own definition of a word then attack people for not using said made up definition.
That said genocide doesn't quite fit as it's not based on race or culture. Eugenics would be a more correct term.
UN definition of genocide: https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml
Although you can't technically genocide trans people because they're not one of the special groups outlined in the definition, you don't actually need to kill people to commit a genocide. I would argue that there is "intent to destroy, in whole or in part" trans people by "Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group" and "Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part". By taking away healthcare and other accommodations, serious harm is caused to trans people. Couple this with the high suicide rates of bullied and marginalised trans people, one could argue that the lawmakers are intending to kill trans people (although I personally wouldn't go that far)
You could define trans people as a cultural group. And there could be a trans genocide. However, this isn’t genocide. It’s just bigotry and hate. Sure, it could become genocide if left unchecked, but right now it’s not.
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