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[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Idk I never really liked mint it seemed too ui polished without much back end polish.

For some reason its the goto for noobs maybe since it comes with a desktop already bundled with no extra config needed usually. But theres so many distros that have that now as well as up to date packages.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

Trying different distributions is a must on using Linux, I still remember my first one, Mandrake, and is not a happy memory. Now Arch is my master, to get here It was not an easy or direct ride, I tried several ones through the years until I find the light ;)

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

@Magnolia_ I drive Fedora on laptop without any issues, and I reaally like Wayland and Fedora. X11 still better for normal people. Also UI and UX similar on Mint to Windows

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't understand why people don't go for something like ZorinOS or Nobara. Both work great out of the box with support for like everything.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I have no idea what this challenge is (I automatically assume it's some cringe when I read "challenge" also that pic is... what?), but you don't run Mint/Debian/Ubuntu if you have super-fresh hardware, like AMD 7000-series or Intel 14th gen and so on. in that case you have to go with Fedora or one of its derivatives (Nobara, Bazzite, etc.), because they have the newest kernels that allow this hardware to run OOB.

if you have a bit older hardware (like 2-3 years old), Mint or Debian is your best bet; Ubuntu if you have to, and only as a stepping stone. it's a solid base and if you use flatpak for everything (Firefox, Chrome, Lutris, Steam, etc.) you won't have issues with old packages and you'll get the best of both worlds - stability and supported hardware.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (9 children)

I think it started with Linus and Luke of Linus Tech Tips doing a 30 day linux challenge to see what it's like daily driving linix. Jeff of Craft Computing did one recently as well.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Fedora isn’t all that easy for a complete noob to install NVIDIA proprietary drivers

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

You think LM being "too old" is a problem for newbies? I've been running some distro or other since RedHat 5. I it took me 6 weeks of waiting for Fedora to sort out most of the issues, (and I STILL have some minor ghosting issues and I ain't no gamer), and 4 tries to get Fedora 40 to successfully take the nVidia drivers for the GTX1650 chipset in my laptop.

You think a new wannbe convert is going to put up with that?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago

I agree with @[email protected] here. Could you describe what issues are people having? What is their user profile (programmers, writers, ...)?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Problems? 'old'? I seem to need a little clarification.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

By default Mint ships 3 years old kernel and a lot of hardware don’t work with it. Mint allows installing newer kernel easily but one must know that is the case.

Mint only works on X11. This is fine to some, but to others it’s a showcase of X shortcomings right away

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

@Magnolia_
Cause Mint is an easy to use community distro.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are right, I wanted to do some nodejs and realized that the package in the repo was Node version 12.something while latest node is version 20.something.

Also they still ship Python 3.10 which is ancient technology by today's standard, luckily nothing major is added between 3.10 and 3.12

Their mirrors are worst, ALL OF SELECTABLE OPTIONS FROM MIRROR SELECTOR which shows up at 47 KB/sec which just hurts your area spanning from asshole to large intestines.

I use bridgetide linux mint mirror btw

So why am I not switching?

Here is why: Linux mint is based on Ubuntu meaning that you can add Ubuntu repos or ppas or whatever they need directly into Linux Mint and dont have to worry about it breaking.

Say that you need to have some software for a reason and you cannot find one in Flatpak or an appimage, etc. You will be happy to realize that many of these software are built for Ubuntu and provide their deb package with own repo with updates.

I run Linux Mint 21.3 and that means I can just use a program built for Ubuntu Jammy as Linux Mint Virginia is based on Ubuntu Jammy. If I need to install something out of repo, I can just go and install Ubuntu jammy deb package and it will work normally.

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