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[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

China has the advantage of not having to care about the citizens' desires in regards to be relocated to make the rail possible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

They also provide apartments to live in permanently for those displaced in the development.

Meanwhile, the US has not built high speed rail and has tent cities.

In the case of national infrastructure, China wins hands down.

Although it's kind of ridiculous to compare California with an entire country...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

China wants unity, even in places where it doesn't make economic sense.

edit: 100% downvotes are coming from people that don't know the situation. The CCP wants fast travel to major population centers even when the rail line isn't profitable.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that a good thing? sounds like the rail is being run as a public utility rather than a business. And its still likely profitable if you average the cost over all the lines.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

I never said it was a good/bad thing. I'm saying the Chinese gov. isn't as concerned with profit. Which explains the difference between California and China

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

It makes economic sense but not financial sense. Railways are almost always profitable once considering second and third order effects.

It's the same story with Amtrak, so I'm not sure why people are so confused. Amtrak loses money on every train that's not the NEC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This is misleadingly reductionist. California high speed rail has made consistant progess in that time. That progress has been slower than ourslowest expectations. It demonstrates the void of expertise the US has in rail megaprojects. However, that expertise is being built, slowly and painfully. Its still forward progress for a nation which tore up half its rail overthe last 50 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Misleadingly reductionist is what /c/memes should be renamed to.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

https://www.eurasiantimes.com/a-whopping-900b-debt-chinas-once-profitable-high-speed-railways/?amp

It'd be good to have high speed rail but not at any cost.

Queue tankies going crazy to defend the absurd cost...