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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Would this avoid google push?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

To was bad decision to rely on Google.. Good to see them fix it considering what we know now

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It used to be less of a decision and more push or no push.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Other apps didn't rely on google for notifications

I am not following how proton is different

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Which apps are you referring to? Google and Apple's services have long been the default choice for notifications on mobile devices. Other options get killed off by battery optimization processes without special setup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Signal has their own implementation of notifications, which uses WebSockets. It works, and it doesn't rely on Google, but it eats up battery like crazy. If every app did this, you would have a battery life of an hour. That's why UnifiedPush is a better solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the info.

Yeah my phone battery is destroyed by signal and browser usage pretty much lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Try Molly, it's a fork of the Signal client for Android, which improves battery life (even with WebSockets) or alternatively allows you to use UnifiedPush. Signal doesn't support UP natively, but Molly has created a bridge called mollysocket, which takes Signal notifications and forwards them to your UnifiedPush server of choice. You can self-host it, or just use a public instance like https://adminforge.de/services/mollysocket/. They also host an instance of ntfy (UnifiedPush server) at ntfy.adminforge.de. If you have questions on how to set this up, feel free to DM me. But it's pretty easy and you don't need to self-host anything. And it's perfectly secure, because although the mollysocket server is added as a linked device in Signal, it doesn't get the encryption keys to your messages. So it can't decrypt your messages or see the content of your notifications.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

can i just replace Signal with it or are there limitations?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yes, there are no limitations. I've been using it since January and it's been fantastic. Just keep in mind that there are multiple versions of Molly, and UnifiedPush support is not included in the main version. You either need to pull the APK from the mollyim-android-unifiedpush repo, or add the Molly F-Droid repo and download the UnifiedPush version from there. For the UnifiedPush client, you just need to download ntfy from F-Droid, GitHub or Google Play, go to the settings, set the server to https://ntfy.adminforge.de, and set the Connection protocol to WebSockets. In the Molly-UnifiedPush app, go to Settings -> Notifications, set the server to https://molly.adminforge.de and set the Delivery Method to UnifiedPush. I know that my explanation wasn't particularly great, but it should work. Will soon post a better guide to [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's the entire point of it

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I have. And I noted it in the recent survey as a must have.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's mildly amusing how this post has 84 upvotes, but the feature request itself only has 34 votes

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

mildly ~~amusing~~ infuriating

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

having to put details in prolly hindering the target audience here lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Still in awe that I can't find any "log in with Proton" option on Proton's official feature request site.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm talking about the user voice site in this post. That doesn't use sign in with SimpleLogin or sign in with Proton (which also exists). You can sign into SimpleLogin with Proton.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Ok now I get what you mean - I fully agree. UserVoice really sucks as a platform, but there aren't many good alternatives and I imagine they don't let you migrate and move the existing feature requests, so Proton is stuck with them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You guys are getting push notifications?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 months ago

Not without Google Play services, that's why we need UnifiedPush support