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  • Global surge in antisemitic incidents following the conflict between Hamas and Israel, affecting Jewish communities in various countries.
  • Antisemitic acts range from verbal abuse to physical assaults, often justified by anger over the Gaza conflict.
  • In areas like the U.S., Britain, France, Germany, and South Africa, antisemitic incidents have increased several hundred percent compared to the same period last year.
  • Official responses vary, with Western authorities generally quick to support Jewish communities, while some countries like China have not taken steps to curtail antisemitic content online.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

What the fuck is with these comments.

Jewish people outside of Israel (citizens of other countries) are not equal to the Israeli government. They have no say and no control over what the Israeli government does. They are not connected.

Jewish 20 year olds going to college in the USA do not deserve to be attacked for simply...being Jewish (see Tulane University events). And so on.

Attacking Jewish people worldwide for the actions of the Israeli government is pure antisemitism, plain and simple, and needs to be called out and condemned.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

What the fuck is with these comments.

What comments? Are you trying to manufacture outrage again?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You're conveniently ignoring though that Israel has over the last decades made themselves basically synonymous with Jews worldwide and have been quick to hide their atrocities behind the word "antisemitism".

I'm not saying it's okay, but it's not far-fetched.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

theyre not conveniently ignoring it, it just wasnt relevant to the comment

the israeli government absolutely carries massive responsibility for the conflation of jews and israelis, and that absolutely does not have any effect on the amount of responsibility jewish folks carry when it comes to the actions of israel

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Just because the Israeli government tells you this, you abandon critical thinking skills? I get that there may be a casual link here, but damn, people need to actually think.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Ahh yes hatred of hate causing more hate. The iconic human death spiral.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

It seems pretty clear a large percentage of the human race associates the actions of any members within an ethnic group as an action by the entire ethnic group. Not 100% culpable, but maybe 60% to 30% depending on age and gender.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

This is despicable in every way. Not surprising, but despicable. There's absolutely no rationale for being anti-semitic in any way shape or form. NONE. I've even asked on every forum, what the hell is behind anti-semitism, and why do people wallow in such muck? And I never get any good answer. Because there is none that doesn't reveal the inane childish bigotry of the responder. There is no more corrupt evil than the sick hatred of other human beings for any reason. That is as low, perverse, and filthy as humans can possibly get.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Antisemitism sucks. So does relentless zionism. Stop accusing all jewish people of being militaristic zionists. Stop comparing Israel to jews. Israel doesn't represent all jews. Saudi Arabia doesn't represent all muslims. Russia doesn't represent all orthodox christians. Being anti Israel doesn't make you antisemitic. Being antisemitic doesn't make you anti Israel. Don't confuse the two. One can cherish jewish people, culture, history and be anti Israel to whatever extent. I'm partly jewish and don't support Israel for example.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Stop accusing all jewish people of being militaristic zionists.

The UK has been openly hostile towards its Jewish residents for centuries. Some of its highest ranking political leaders are openly anti-semitic. Much of the Zionism of the 19th century was a direct consequence of British state and popular leaders villainizing Jewish residents and businesses in the exact same manner as the Germans did a decade or two later.

Meanwhile, state media wants to tie all Jewish people to the Israeli cause, even going so far as to accuse anti-Israeli jewish people and groups as being anti-semitic themselves and hounding any kind of Palestinian peace activists for being "terrorist sympathizers" by default.

So its sort of a rock-and-hard-place for UK Jews (particularly Hasidic Jews, who categorically reject Zionism) who have had to deal with this kind of state-sanctioned harassment and violence their entire lives, to disassociate from Zionism. Both the anti-Semitic bigots and the pro-Israeli flaks seem intent on tying you to the mast-head of this sinking ship.

Saudi Arabia doesn’t represent all muslims. Russia doesn’t represent all orthodox christians.

That's been another kind-of annoying habit of mass media. Every Muslim from Minnesota to Mecca gets treated like the most radical orthodox Wahhabist. We've got US Senators and British PMs alike waxing poetic about "Radical Islamic Extremism" and demanding every practitioner of the faith make formal public apologizes for whatever nonsense MBS or Ayatollah Khomeini is on about this week.

Similarly, god forbid you know a bit of Cyrillic. People lose their fucking minds over the Russia-Ukraine shit if you're not on the "right" side (which, at least in American politics, varies entirely based on your domestic ideological leaning).

One can cherish jewish people, culture, history and be anti Israel to whatever extent.

Not according to the western press. You need to pick a fucking side. And then it becomes a competition to be the most rabid and deranged in your support of that side. Otherwise, you're no better than a traitor.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A nazi is a nazi. If we on the left are calling it out, it's because we have the intelligence to see shit for what it is.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

The scary part is I've seen a schism in the left on this. There have been times where people proclaiming rights for Gaza in the same breath compare Jews to Nazis even though the problem is with the state not the people. Everyone on the left agrees it's a human rights issue for both sides but unfortunately some are picking sides.

Meanwhile the Jewish people are backed into a corner so things are going to get irrational from them as well. Although I am not Jewish myself I am very close to many and all of them are anxious wrecks over this. Every other faith has multiple nations which have their religion as a state religion but Jews have only one choice if that's what they want. The ideal situation would have been surgical strikes against Hamas but Netanyahu gonna Netanyahoo.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Conflating the Israeli government, and the Israeli military, with the Jewish ethnicity, and the Jewish religion, is proving to be bad for overall PR when the government, and the military, are doing things that are vastly unpopular globally. Like apartheid

[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago

"Bad PR" doesn't even begin to cover it. Netanyahu never misses an opportunity to claim he represents all Jews, so of course when his government commits atrocities, a lot a gullible people are gonna blame Jews in general. It's so predictable I strongly suspect it's one of his goals, because there's nothing better for a far-right populist's political career than convincing his supporters they're under attack, and it's especially easy when they actually are under attack. All he had to do was paint a target on every Jew in the world, which is clearly a small price in his mind.

I hope one day he's remembered alongside Putin as one of the worst villains of the 21st century.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

Antisemitic attacks are not the result of "bad PR"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 10 months ago

You know what. I don't care, right now.
This is just indecent, they want to play on both part. being the hangman and the victims.

"yeah but not all jews are..." Yes indeed, of course but there is not place to complain about 2 raw tags on a wall or a swearword hidden in the crowd. They risks nothing! This is pure indecency to cry about antisemitism right now.