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Even though Netanyahu is Jewish, he knows using (and in this case abusing) the Christian bible is a good way to keep support going among US evangelicals and the new Speaker of the House.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Even though Netanyahu is Jewish, he knows using (and in this case abusing) the Christian bible

He's citing the Hebrew Bible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's truly no shortage of uninformed takes on the Isreal Palestine situation.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Not only is he citing the Hebrew Bible, it SAYS IN THE LINK THAT HE POSTED THAT HE'S CITING THE HEBREW BIBLE.

Seriously, kids these days, it's like nobody goes to Vacation Bible School anymore

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

OP, do you know where the books of Moses in the old testament come from?

Exactly, it's a copy of the Jewish Torah which Netanyahu quoted.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If he pulls out some old testament shit he's good to go. The Israelites were told to destroy Jericho completely in the story I remember. Just change the name to Gaza and it works out great for him.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was having a weird one today so I read through the book of Amos. It’s shockingly similar to the current situation.

Amos prophesied that Gaza would be destroyed, even genocided, as a reaction to crimes that included kidnapping entire communities. But that’s just an intro to a prophecy that Israel would be violently and mercilessly destroyed in response to a long list of their own crimes.

I’m not saying that Amos predicted the current situation, just that it’s sad how little we’ve improved in 2500 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Prophecies require explicit parameters. Anything else is ad-hoc and you can fit nearly anything to be a prophecy after the fact.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Funnily enough (not funny actually, considering the war crimes and all), the Old Testament says that the Jews/Isrealites will never get rid of other people living in the area due to not driving them out in their original conquest.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Imagine no religion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Be aware that Middle East Monitor is rated "Factual reporting: Mixed" and strongly biased as it sometime use poor sources and use loaded words.

La Croix published an alaysis of this Isaiah Prophecy quote (french). They found it's a poor and/or convoluted reference, and that article do not mention "Holy War" so this expression is most likely editorializing from the Middle East Monitor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It may indeed be, I'm not familiar with Middle East Monitor, but Media Bias/Fact Check are themselves rather infamously biased towards the American right wing. For example, they list the New York Times as nearly as left-biased as their scale goes, despite that the Times has largely taken the Republican party line on a number of issues, such as queer rights (their deceptive coverage of trans rights has been a large part of the current moral panic, and has led to multiple open lettersof protest). The Times was even instrumental in elevating Trump to the presidency with their incredibly dubious decision to give Comey's procedural memo front page placement and a misleading headline mere days before the election


a choice that Nate Silver has said was possibly deciding on the election. The Guardian is also listed as left-center despite even more extreme transphobic editorial decisions than even the Times.

Similarly, they list MSNBC as far-left, despite them having Republican-led shows and frequent Republican guests. I'll definitely agree there's some degree to which they're on the left, but it's pretty minor all told. The idea that they're far left is just ridiculous, and one that only makes sense from the perspective of America's right-wing culture.

At the same time, they list Wall Street Journal as mostly credible, something that just isn't a serious take on media credibility.

(Edited to add: a lot of this comes down to the very strong bias in American media towards the "both sides" idea that if two sources disagree, the truth must be in the middle. That bias is especially clear in discussions of climate change, but it's also prevalent in discussions of other political issues more generally.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

As usual, our Overton window is all that matters to people in the states. There's some active debate about how much longer centralized media control in all legacy formats will mean the level of control the phrase implies, but until that shifts, Overton is staying put.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's really just a video of Netanyahu saying the words himself. It's not interpreted or analysed by the website. Don't see how that can be very biased.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I watched it a second time to be sure. While the voiceover doesn't say "Holy War" he does cite religion and sounds like religious radicals dog-whistle.

There's good reasons to be critical of Netanyahu government, but I'd still suggest seeking better sources.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol this is a propaganda outlet

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The Old Testament is full of rules and commandments that, taken completely out of context and applied literally, would lead any modern society to collapse. In the west we thought we knew better than bronze age nomadic tribes of the Middle East, after the scientific and industrial revolutions, but in the end we keep going back to the Bible for directions. Fundamentalist christians are no exception. We should review the way we think about ourselves as "progressed" and civilized societies.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s pretty awful in context.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

And was meant to be taken literally.