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The map contains exact locations of homocides from the 2000s to now. You can zoom in far enough to see the neighborhood the murder(s) happened in. I'm sorry that the site is primarily in Norwegian, but you should still be able to zoom around. Wonder of there's a global map that's that detailed.

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[–] [email protected] 284 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 67 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And that's why it's important to look at these numbers pr capita in a given area if we want to draw useful conclusions

[–] [email protected] 48 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Which also requires additional consideration for low population areas that can have their statistics swing wildly.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Yep, like when there's a remote mountain town of five people and two of them get murdered.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 months ago

Hell, even one is 20% of the population!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Like the insane murder rate in Midsummer County? (If the tv serial is a valid source of murder incidents)

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If Scandinavian homicide serials were accurate there would be nobody left!

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All I'm seeing is if you're in the northern half of Norway, stay away from water and you won't die.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

stay away from water and you won't die.

I've actually found the opposite to be the case worldwide.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

I was gonna post this if you didn't, lol.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

You ever notice how the third map's actually different? How there is suddenly a red dot down at the bottom about where San Antonio is?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 78 points 4 months ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

With the data I have at hand, people mostly seem to die in them.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

So what you're saying is that cities were made by governments in order to control the population, and to some degree reduce overcrowding? /s

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Most people die in hospitals. – Avoid hospitals if you value your life. /s

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I’ll believe it when i see it

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Good old /peopleliveincities content.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago

I am a data scientist and I found an interesting pattern, hear me out...

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

But... these people are dead.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago

/peoplelivedincities

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

we learned our lesson the first time, time to put more cops in the dark areas where murders will cripple Norway permanently

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Did you mean Homicide map, or is it indeed called a Homocide map?

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (7 children)

Well, there's one terror attack that happened on the island of utøya, apparently 69 people were killed

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago (3 children)

On Friday 22 July 2011, Norway was hit by two terrorist attacks. The bomb attack on the government quarter and the mass murder on Utøya are the worst acts of terrorism in Norway since the Second World War. The attack was politically motivated.

The perpetrator wanted to hit the state, the Labor Party and the party's youth in AUF.

At the AUF camp on Utøya in the Tyrifjord, 69 people were killed. 32 of those killed on the island were under the age of 18. The two youngest were only 14 years old. It took just over an hour from the time the police received information about the shots on the island until the perpetrator was arrested.

There were a total of 564 people on Utøya when the terrorist attacked. 495 survived by hiding in buildings, under dead friends, on mountain slopes or by swimming ashore.

The perpetrator, Anders Behring Breivik, is serving a sentence of 21 years in prison. In court, Breivik admitted to having committed the murders, but he pleaded not guilty.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

If I remember correctly, the police failed to arrive quickly because he bombed a government building in central Oslo. When they did arrive to the general area, they found out that the amount of equipment they had to bring with them caused them to exceed the weight limit of the boat they used which in turn flooded the engine with water. To add to the series of unfortunate events and general incompetence, they were forced to travel 3.6 km to the island instead of the planned 600m, adding delays to their arrival.

I remember the days after the attacks as I couldn't attend school due to many of the teachers losing their children at Utøya. Many of the teachers I had resigned as they couldn't bear the weight of lost family.

It still messes with me even though I was 6 or 7 when this happened, and wasn't directly affected. I can't think of how much pain those parents had to have endured

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh I remember that, that was awful. He specifically wanted to kill children.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

IIRC, he also wrote in his diary about going to clubs and having one night stands, but it's OK because God will forgive him because of what he's about to do.

A Malcom Reynolds quote comes to mind: he's a monster who thinks he's right with God. That quote needs to be used more.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that red circle around Utøya is really sad 😞

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 4 months ago

Wow, Sweden is so much safer! \s

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How do I report murders that aren't showing up on the map? I've tried refreshing a million times and I'm 100% sure the murders are finalized?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried turning the victim(s) on then off again? If that doesn't fix your issue I suggest you call tech support. Their local hotline is 112, and if you're looking for the international one it's 911. Both lines are toll free.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 4 months ago

You can try murdering your neighbor, see if they show up

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Hmm, that's weird, they missed one.

What?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow, look how safe Sweden is! Not a single red dot!

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 months ago

Well.... It's not "Norway has a map of murders", but a newspaper in Norway has made a map of murders in Norway.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Note to self, don't visit Olso, visit Stockholm. /s

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (2 children)

The closer you are to Denmark the more murderous you become...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Homicide* ... unless you actually mean homocide.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (4 children)

Interesting that this map also specifies who was the victim.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I assume it's to humanize the victims of homicides, rather than portraying them as mere statistics on a spreadsheet.

Kinda sad tho

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 months ago (2 children)

How is this possible don't they have to keep them anonymous?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 months ago

Here's the reason for why the data is public (according to them)

This is why VG publishes an overview of all Norwegian murders

All murders have ripple effects. For the immediate family, for the local community and for society at large. VG has mapped all murder cases from 2000 to the present day.

Openness about who, where, how and why people are killed is important in order to be able to conduct a knowledge-based debate about murder as a social problem. It is only when the public knows what is happening that it is possible to implement preventive measures.

In recent years, a number of miscarriages of justice have been uncovered. VG believes that openness about criminal cases and legal processes is an important safety valve for avoiding prejudgment - and strengthening legal certainty for both victims and suspects.

Through its work on the report series "The unsolved deaths", VG revealed in 2023 that the official Norwegian statistics on unsolved murders were missing several murder victims. This underlines the need for an ongoing public overview of all murder cases - regardless of police assessments.

This text was translated to English using deepl. Here's the original article

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 months ago (6 children)

The Nordics are generally less reluctant with personal data compared to e.g. Germany.

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