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Trump Demands Biden Remove Ad of Him Calling Dead Soldiers ‘Suckers’ and ‘Losers’ - The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

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[–] [email protected] 296 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

Convicted felon Donald Trump approaches self awareness and quickly sidesteps.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

Hopefully he does that thing where both step in the same direction, over and over.

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[–] [email protected] 275 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The former president said only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements.

I mean, he's right...

[–] [email protected] 80 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 55 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Just run clips of him saying it, then clips of what he just said.

Hell, I've even got an idea for the third commercial:

https://youtu.be/Ag4P2xfmuZQ?si=UkSYTIDp0tE_GnuL&t=66

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[–] [email protected] 194 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (125 children)

In fairness to Trump (there's a sentence I never thought I'd write...)

"“He said I stood over graves of soldiers and I said: ‘These people are suckers and losers,"

That's technically correct. He did not say those things in public.

Edit I watched the ad, it does not specify that Trump said these things in public, just that he said them which is true.

He said them privately to staff members.

Confirmed by Trump's former Chief of Staff, John Kelly:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

But my favorite quote out of all this is the one that barely gets mentioned:

https://www.axios.com/2023/10/02/trump-troops-fallen-soldiers-john-kelly

Trump saying at a 2017 Memorial Day event in Arlington National Cemetery: "I don't get it. What was in it for them?"

Trump is ENTIRELY transactional. The idea that good men would fight a war for their country purely because it's the right thing to do escapes him entirely.

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[–] [email protected] 148 points 5 months ago (16 children)

He got specific when attacking John McCain, "I like people who weren't captured."

[–] [email protected] 103 points 5 months ago (12 children)

Biden's team should shoot back with that: "I like people who weren't convicted."

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[–] [email protected] 142 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.

source, The Atlantic, September 3rd 2020

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago

In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.”

Arlington was property seized from Robert E. Lee and chartered to house dead Union soldiers after the civil war.

So it sounds like it was filled with winners, at least for a little while.

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 5 months ago

If it is getting under Trumps skin I’d double down and release more of them. Fuck him.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 5 months ago (7 children)

What did he say about John McCain? "I like people who weren't captured."

Trump has never given a shit about the military or veterans. I'm surprised at how many veterans love him.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (9 children)

The military doesn't attract the brightest minds.

Reminds me of a joke that did the rounds shortly after Finland joined Nato.

Finnish general: "You know, it's difficult, we have mandatory military service, but around 15% are unfit for service"

Other Nato generals: "That 15% is where we have to recruit from"

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[–] [email protected] 90 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Always keep in mind that Trump is a person with a very weak mind. It might actually be the case that he has forgotten about many of the misdeeds he has done, and considers himself an innocent and successful man just because he does not remember about reality.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It took you a lot of words to define dementia. 😆

[–] [email protected] 52 points 5 months ago

Narcissists are like this even without dementia.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It's more insidious than that. Malignant narcissists like Trump believe their gaslighting and lies define reality for everyone.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That's a startling amount of self-awareness from him.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't count as self-awareness if he disassociates from the statement entirely, it's actually the opposite.

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 5 months ago (43 children)

Veteran here. Donald Trump fucking hates 'the troops'. The number of active duty and prior service who still (or ever) support that anti-American shit stain blows my mind.

Here's some light reading - this list is WAY outdated at this point, so feel free to contribute some more links in the comments. These are examples of things he's done specifically to attack the US military / veterans:

https://lemmy.world/post/8041636

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[–] [email protected] 72 points 5 months ago

He can demand all he wants, but... he fucking said it.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Follow up ad:

Trump: "only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements."

Trump: *insults dead troops

Trump: "only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements."

Trump: *insults POWs

Trump: "only a “psycho” or a “very stupid person” would’ve made such statements."

Repeat ad nauseum for every stupid arms services quote (or any other quote) the dumb idiot has said.

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 5 months ago

"Trump demands"... LOL

[–] [email protected] 45 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Did Trump just acknowledge he's a very stupid psycho?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

Every time he opens his face sphincter.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Why? None of your cult will care. You can shoot someone in broad daylight, remember?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

I didn't expect agreeing with a trump statement in my life, talking about the last part of course

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago

How dare you use my own words against me?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Now tack that onto the end of the commercial.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago

I demand trump shove a hamberder and covfefe up his asshole (the one near his mushroom, not the one under his nose).

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago

Sounds like a good life lesson about not saying things you don't want others to hear.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What video is that? Now I want to look at it.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I hope the people who still see ads on the content they watch are the same folks who need to see these.

Nothing I watch has ads anymore, so if I needed this information to know what kind of person Trump was (somehow) I would not be seeing it.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Did he just call himself a very stupid psycho?

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 months ago

"Who put up all these mirrors up? Are you calling me ugly?!?!"

[–] [email protected] 22 points 5 months ago (9 children)

Yeah and I wish we could remove Trump from this world. Not happening either. Fuck humanity, we all deserve what we'll get.

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