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Is this different than how Israel sees all Palestinians as Hamas? ... Because Israel has made it clear that it won't stop bombing Gaza until all of Hamas is dead and it looks like they won't believe they've done that until there's no beating hearts left on that side of the prison walls.
I mean, the only way to make sure nobody will try revenge is to exterminate everyone involved.
Realistically though, Netanjahu and his allies don't want peace, just like the rulers of Hamas (which are not even in Gaza, btw). They both profit way too much from the conflict, especially if it's just on slow boil.
And they're not wrong. A settler displacing you is displacing you regardless of where they came from.
Is this about people with dual citizenship or just tourists? There's a difference.
Dual citizenship
I have read that many foreign workers were taken as well. Just people who came to Israel to make some money to send home to their family got caught up in this.
even the 54 folks for thailand?
It seems the true number was 18 after all, like Hamas was saying, and not 54 like Israel was saying.
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/general/40032323
Also Hamas has already reached an agreement with Thailand to release the Thai hostages but Israel is so far refusing to cooperate with their release.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2673106/hamas-ready-to-free-all-thais
The IDF could say the leader of Hamas died of ligma and the average American would believe it at this point.
Very moral
Thai gov says 18, don't spread misinformation
Yeah, came here to ask that,too.
They are literally the poorest souls in that shitshow (and that does not mean any hostage deserved it, it's just a race to the bottom)- some underpaid farm hands, just trying to help their families get by, citiziens of a country which has little chance to pressure Hamas much while their death would mean a massive blow to israels economy (because it would lead to most Thais leaving very likely) and a small victory for the Hamas as the Thais are not well viewed upon by Palestinians as the jobs they now have had been done by them. From their point of view, Israel would have been unable to make obtaining work permits for Palestinians so much harder without the Thais willing to do the jobs.
Palestine had more than 80% of the population unemployed. They have been killed by thousand every year.
Then this:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/04/gaza-strip-protesters-received-bullet-wounds-to-ankles-medics-report
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/02/israels-apartheid-against-palestinians-a-cruel-system-of-domination-and-a-crime-against-humanity/
And you're only worried about 18 Thais...?
I mean, are you incapable of having any sympathy for individuals that walked into what seemed to be peaceful but turned into a warzone?
Sure, the Israel Palestine conflict has been going on since 1948 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_conflict
But if your work told you to go on a quick in and out trip to Jamaica would you know there's an older persistent conflict that could cause you harm? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamaican_political_conflict
Shit Sudan and Myanmar both have higher body counts so far. You check with the state department and lists of all armed conflicts before all your trips?
Well, what I mean is that you have sympathy for 18 individuals, but you are ignoring the 2,000,000 Palestinians living on that prison, as I said, getting killed, injured and humiliated for decades. So where is your sympathy to the 2,000,000 Palestinians? I think you don't have any because your government is telling you "Hamas is terrorist" (like Instagram bug with their translator, changing Palestine to terrorists) and they are so bad... but they not telling you all the bad things Israel is doing. Israel didn't kill more than 50 Hamas members with those attacks they are doing (they don't even care to release the people kidnapped), they are just killing citizens and then plan to eliminate them all and kick them from their small territory (Gaza). You don't even seems to know the reason of why Hamas did that attack on 7/10.
https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=l8qay1Al7Dc
EDIT: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli%E2%80%93Palestinian_peace_process
Nevertheless, there is a range of ulterior motives for Israel's denial of Palestinian statehood. If Palestine were declared a state, then immediately, Israel, by its present occupation of the West Bank will be in breach of the United Nations Charter. Palestine, as a state, could legitimately call upon the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense under Article 51 of the Charter to remove Israel from the occupied territories. Palestine, as a state, would be able to accede to international conventions and bring legal action against Israel on various matters. Palestine could accede to various international human rights instruments, such as the Covenant on Civil and Political Rights. It could even join the International Criminal Court and file cases against Israel for war crimes. It would be a tinderbox of a situation that is highly likely to precipitate conflict in the Middle East.[27]
There is a lively debate around the shape that a lasting peace settlement would take (see for example the One-state solution and Two-state solution). Authors like Cook have argued that the one-state solution is opposed by Israel because the very nature of Zionism and Jewish nationalism calls for a Jewish majority state, whilst the two-state solution would require the difficult relocation of half a million Jewish settlers living in the West Bank and East Jerusalem.[28] The Palestinian leaders such as Salam Fayyad have rejected calls for a binational state or unilateral declaration of statehood. As of 2010, only a minority of Palestinians and Israelis support the one-state solution.[29] Interest in a one-state solution is growing, however, as the two-state approach fails to accomplish a final agreement.[30][31]
That's why Israel will never make peace.
Various "transfers of power and responsibilities" in the Gaza Strip and West Bank from Israel to the Palestinians took place in the mid-1990s.[39] The Palestinians achieved self-governance of major cities in the West Bank and the entire Gaza Strip. Israel maintained and continues to maintain a presence in the West Bank for security reasons. In 2013 Israel still had control of 61% of the West Bank, while the Palestinians had control of civic functions for most of the Palestinian population.
So they never wanted to give back the Palestine territory.
Dude. I just pointed out that these guys are a lesser known part of the conflict that also deserves some attention. That doesn't change anything about the situation of Palestinians at all.
But unlike ideological keyboard warriors like you I do actual aid work (and have done so in Palestina) - and, as basically anyone doing so, have experienced the multiple layers the conflict has.
What you are doing is not helping Palestina one single bit. It does nothing besides turning people away from the Palestinian cause and from Palestinian victims. So either you are a very good Israeli shill or a very bad one for the Palestinian cause.
I don’t understand, you mean you are doing more than me because you are pointing us that they are the “poorest souls” and that they live in a bad situation?
keyboard warriors like you
???
I do actual aid work
I don't know about your life, like you neither know about mine, I don't go into personal attacks.
Especially them
so hamas is visually impaired?
They're not being paid to think - they're being paid to cause contention by any means necessary. Who's paying them?
Of course it's fucking old ass white guys