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What's your evidence, Richard Easton??!?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Our mother who art in WiFi
Thy beacon come
Thou handshake be done
In ac as in 802.11

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Let me tempt you with some SYN

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

No thanks, I'm FIN.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

From the wiki page

During the late 1930s, Lamarr attended arms deals with her then-husband arms dealer Fritz Mandl, "possibly to improve his chances of making a sale".[41] From the meetings, she learned that navies needed "a way to guide a torpedo as it raced through the water." Radio control had been proposed. However, an enemy might be able to jam such a torpedo's guidance system and set it off course.[42] When later discussing this with a new friend, composer and pianist George Antheil, her idea to prevent jamming by frequency hopping met Antheil's previous work in music. In that earlier work, Antheil attempted synchronizing note-hopping in the avant-garde piece written as a score for the film Ballet Mechanique that involved multiple synchronized player pianos. Antheil's idea in the piece was to synchronize the start time of identical player pianos with identical player piano rolls, so the pianos would be playing in time with one another. Together, they realized that radio frequencies could be changed similarly, using the same kind of mechanism, but miniaturized.[4][41]

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Gotcha, WiFi is a bunch of tiny pianists in a box

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

And then we should remember that the patent is on the way of getting the synchronisation, not frequency hoping as such an already know technology. And the connection to Bluetooth and Wifi get down to almost 0.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This post is inaccurate. Neither WiFi nor GPS use FHSS, nor is Lamarr anything close to singularly credited with FHSS' invention (the earliest patent is credited to Nikola Tesla). This also implies that the Allies used her parent - they did not.

Also Richard Easton is the son of the man who invented GPS and had every right to be skeptical of this claim, and it looks like Internet dipsh*ts have bullied him into deleting his twitter account over this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

This is mostly wrong: while she did invent what would later be called Frequency Hopping Spread Spectrum (FHSS), it isn't used in modern WiFi or in GPS. It is used in Bluetooth though.

I should point out that techniques like FHSS are only a part of what makes up a radio communication method. You can't say it was "the basis of Bluetooth" just because FHSS is one of the many technologies used in Bluetooth. She certainly contributed though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You got me curious, is that true across all the different options for wifi such as 802.11b and a?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yes, it's been obsoleted in wifi since 2014. DSSS was always the preferred option and FHSS was never used much in WiFi.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know who this guy is. Did he do something to Lamarr?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Calling Hedy Lamarr "the Mother of Wifi" because she invented FHSS is like calling E. A. Johnson, who invented the first capacitive touchscreen in 1965, "the Father of the iPhone".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Woman make thing!? Me no likely! Woke lie!

Fucking troglodytes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There are plenty of women in STEM who deserve more recognition. Lise Meitner, discovered nuclear fission. Gladys West, came up with the theory that laid the groundwork for GPS. Grace Hopper, inventor of the program linker, without which modern software development would be impossible. Ada Lovelace, arguably the first programmer ever. But calling a woman whose name is one of two on a patent that furthered the development of a radio communication technique originally devised 40 years earlier by Nikola Tesla which Wi-Fi no longer uses "the mother of Wi-Fi" and putting her on a pedestal just because she's a woman, parading her (and only her) around every Women's History Month, and calling anyone who claims she didn't actually invent Wi-Fi (because she died around the time of its creation) a "troglodyte" is not a good look.