Holy shit! Those are crazy numbers!
Wtf is going on in St. Louis???
this post was submitted on 03 Jun 2024
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St. Louis is arguably the worst case of urban decay currently occuring in America, even worse than the much popularly maligned Detroit.
Basically, there are whole districts of the city that are just literally falling apart. The city's population has been shrinking, poverty is rampant as the economy tanks, public services are on the decline...
Vice has a documentary on it.
Edit: For comparison, heres St Louis crime statistics compared to by far the most dangerous city in Ecuador (currently only in Western news for their war against cartels).
As you can see, an international news worthy level of violence in Ecuador is just shy of an average day in St Louis.
To add onto this, St. Louis is similar to Baltimore where the city and the county have split. The city isn’t like almost every other city in America. The city numbers don’t have the more suburban calmness and reduced crime to easily compare across other cities. The north of the city is definitely dangerous, but as I understand it every city has a more run down dangerous area.
Agreed on all of that, good context to add.
Thanks for the info. I had no idea it was that bad.
This is off topic but seeing as I have been considering actually moving to Ecuador...
Cuenca is much, much more friendly.
So much so that its got better crime stats than basically most US cities over 500,000 people.
That site seems useless? It’s mostly survey data and nothing related to reality?
Well I'd love to use statista, but I am just barely not homeless and thus unable to afford a membership for a lemmy post.
Numbeo is the best widescale city data comparison site I can find thats available for free and works on a shit tier phone with spotty 4g connection.
If you can find more accurate numbers, please by all means present them and I'll edit my post.
Many cities release public crime stats. However standardized numbers are probably very hard to get.
I look at my local one from time to time, and it’s pretty average. This site makes it sound like a war zone, and I believe that’s exactly what a survey would show. Since news is so negative and no average person would ever take a survey.
Note to self: Do not live in north St. Louis.
North County was previously where all the middle class white people went after fleeing the urban core. Then as more African American families moved in to get away from urban decay, the white population moved to suburbs south and west of the city. This isn't civil rights history, either -- it's been an ongoing process as recently as the 90s. My (white) dad grew up in Blackjack, just a short ways from Ferguson, and his parents only moved out of the area around 1995. When the unrest around Michael Brown's death kicked off, he turned on the evening news to see the supermarket where my grandmother used to buy groceries going up in flames.