For those wondering I was able to find independent coverage from PBS a bakery in Nuseirat refugee camp was bombed by Israel.
I was also able to find drone footage of the Nuseirat refugee camp bombing from the Guardian.
this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
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At this point I've seen enough to know that folks who really wanted insert other party to be removed from this world are successfully convincing the ones who were on the fence or even against that idea. This doesn't look like it'll de-escalate anytime soon, which only means more and more suffering and loss. Humans are both the most intelligent and most stupid animals on this planet to be the single biggest threat to themselves.
It's been this way for a long time, except now it is very much more one sided and visible to all.
Yet, its like the poor bear stuck in a zoo cage that folks pity and then they get into their SUVs and forget about.
Can we start calling them "Russia Light" now? Or is Israel trying to become the new Russia in terms of atrocities?
It makes me sick that the US is supporting these atrocities.
It makes me even sicker that we have no control over it at all.
No matter who you vote for, you will be voting for genocide.
This is the first time in my life I'm planning to vote independent. R's are all awful as usual and I'm absolutely disgusted with Biden's support of Israel.
Worse, it's been funding them at the expense of literally everyone else. You don't have healthcare so Israel can kill children with war crimes.
The US politicians are supporting this. Some citizens are protesting any support of Israel, others are just complacent.
Over the however many years of the Donbass conflicts and the Russia-Ukraine war, less children died than in a few weeks of bombings by Israel. Russia has oriented their invasion primarily towards regions that are ethnically Russian. Israel has oriented their invasion primarily towards regions that are ethnically Palestinian Arabs. Today, the civilian death toll in Gaza (~7000) after less than three weeks of fighting is approaching that in the Russian War in Ukraine (~9500) after almost two years and already exceeds that of the Ukrainian War in Donbass (~3500) after 7 years of fighting.
The Russia-Ukraine war is a war, and it reflects in how it's been conducted. No single strike throughout either war caused 500+ civilian casualties. Neither side has tried to level the others' cities entirely (though both sides have struck civilian targets and used disproportionate force). Neither side has sought the eradication of the others' peoples. Both sides are, to a significant degree, similarly equipped and armed. Both sides could enter into peace negotiations at any time and those peace negotiations won't involve the complete removal of either people from their country. The closest comparable is maybe Ukraine on Donbass, but the same still holds: neither side came even close to the level of disregard for human life that the IDF is exhibiting.
Israel isn't Russia-lite, Israel is worse. They're not even close to comparable.
While I agree with the spirit of your post, I think you've missed a lot of what has been going on in Ukraine. Ukrainians aren't just fighting for their land -- like Palatine they are fighting for the survival of their whole people. Russia's goal is to completely wipe out Ukrainians and put their own people in place. Each of the regions of Ukraine that are claimed to be populated by a great extent with Russian citizens is only that way because Russia literally came in, kidnapped and removed rightful citizens, and replaced them with Russian citizens. Those "votes" like you hear about in Crimea where the results were narrowly to remain as part of Ukraine? That was because so many Ukrainian citizens went missing around 2014 (or probably earlier). Any attempt in a "peace treaty" with Russia means you die and Russians take your land. You might also want to take a look at their history, where Russia told Ukraine if they gave up their nukes, they could be their own country and Russia would let them be... how did that work out?
Russia absolutely has destroyed entire cities in Ukraine. There are several examples of once-thriving cities that are now smoking craters of rubble, and then told their own citizens how those cities were "liberated". This is what all of Ukraine expects to happen to them if they stop fighting.
As far as honoring human life -- have you been living under a rock? Do you not know what Russian soldiers have been doing to Ukrainian citizens?
Sorry, Israel may be close, but they haven't surpassed Russia's crimes. If anything it might be a close race, until you factor in all the other countries that Russia has given similar treatment to and the number of centuries they have been doing this.
Ukrainians aren't just fighting for their land -- like Palatine they are fighting for the survival of their whole people.
I didn't bother reading after that sentence.
Just fyi, No Palestine isn't just fighting for land, they are fighting for their existence (which has been slowly getting eradicated) and freedom of their people from the inhumane brutality of the occupiers.
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I know, it was a terrible joke...
Fuck it, anyone even passively siding with Israel after hearing about this i'm wishing them a very soon and very painful incinerating in hell.
Bombing humanitarian aid. How will that play out?
As long as US and EU support you, you can do whatever you want. US and EU will even send you weapons, bombs and tanks to do it more efficiently. This is nothing new, and you will see this open genocidal behavior more often in the future, and their media will justify this mass murdering behavior tomorrow. Just make sure US and EU are supporting you, otherwise you are either a terrorist or commie and aren't allowed to be a genocidal psychopath.
Our "democratically elected" and "lesser evil" politicians and industrialist are not human.
Unbiased reporting. I'm sure we get the full picture from this.