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[–] [email protected] 32 points 5 months ago

Let's give all those people who allowed this shit to happen the opportunity to benefit from their own wisdom by becoming slaves. Must be owned by a non-white person.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's wild is, I actually went and googled this topic with an open mind. It's not even true. There weren't major benefits besides adding diversity and culture to our country, and there were certainly better ways to go about that. (https://www.econlib.org/library/enc/usslaveryandeconomicthought.html)

[–] [email protected] 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Isn't the major controversy that they're trying to argue that there were benefits for the slaves? Not benefits for the nation, benefits for the state, or even benefits for the plantation owners... but they're forcing teachers to teach that the slaves themselves benefited - right?

These people are so fucked up, I just can't. I can't figure out how they're in office.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That is correct. Quote from the article:

Florida’s new teaching standards include the same language that scored national blowback last year for requiring middle school students to learn “how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.”

[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago

That sounds an awful lot like how corporations spin terrible news to their employees.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Fucking yikes. I wouldn't have guessed that from just the title. I don't understand why I don't just assume the absolute worst when Republicans do anything these days 😂

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s a topic I’m WAAAAY too dumb to weigh in on myself, but as fucked up as it is, there were some major benefits (not to say they were worth the mindblowing human rights abuse)…

The “Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History” episode Human Resources was extremely enlightening on the subject (if you have FIVE AND A HALF HOURS to spare…)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago

Free labor is certainly good, but it resulted in the south basically refusing to industrialize which meant their almost entirely slave-based economy was destroyed after the Civil War.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fascinating!

It's absolutely a topic worth discussing and considering from a college or advanced high school level perspective imo as there is debate to be had. IDK if you saw it, the article I linked does discuss a lot of the benefits, and it discusses a lot of the downsides to those benefits. Like cotton from the south was definitely cheaper, but putting all their eggs into the slave estate basket meant they didn't have a well developed industrial base, which you can see caused them a lot of issues in the civil war. It was also bad from their overall economy.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Aha! I’ll check out your link when I’m able to read it on a bigger screen, it’s definitely a fascinating (and horrifying) topic!

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, no. Let's keep the land. Just kick out the morons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Yeah, I like the Keys. It’s a weird vibe there, but Marathon and Key West are worth keeping. Especially the turtle hospital in Marathon. You can see turtles get surgery! And until a couple years ago they had a turtle named Bubble Butt, for whom “Bubble Butt Syndrome” was named! Sadly Bubble Butt passed away in April of 2022.

Edit: Also, when my wife and I toured the hospital, they had a whole bunch of juvenile turtles who had been shocked by rapid temperature changes and then rescued and sent to a whole bunch of turtle hospitals around the world for rehabilitation. This rehabilitation essentially consisted of slowly changing the temperature of the water they were in until it matched the temperature outside so they could be released.

Since they had a lot of these, they didn’t bother to name them but instead numbered them. One of them was numbered “404,” and the tour guide was thrilled when my wife said, “I couldn’t find the turtle in this tub.” She (the tour guide) said she had made that joke a few times but no one had gotten it. 😂

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Florida's really gone downhill in the past decade... not that it was much above sea level to begin with...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

required instruction surrounding the Sept. 11 attacks and the history of Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders,

Yeah I have no optimism for the rest of this either