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I’m looking to go into Usenet / premiumize / real Debrid but I don’t know which ones are reputable. Which ones have you all had luck with or liked? And what was the cost?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I've been using nzbgeek for a few months and have a friend that's used it for a few years, no complaints and pretty cheap

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

+1 for nzbgeek.

I also use nzbplanet but they seem to have the same options as geek.

Nzb.su and DrunkenSlug are my "backup" but only because they don't have a lifetime subscription.

In the Usenet subReddit wiki you can find an awesome list of providers and their backbone. Again, I'm cheap so I went with the cheapest one I could find.. it's rare but because I'm not using "the best" I'll need to use torrents to get anything I can't grab from Usenet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As someone who already torrents with a VPN, is there any advantage to NZB?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Usenet is usually a lot faster, for most things you can basically max out your bandwidth (or whatever the max you set your download client to) instead of it being determined by the number and quality of seeders. Newer releases torrents also download very fast, but after a few months or years the seeders drop off a lot, usenet is always the same speed even if it's super old and most keep stuff indefinitely or for 10-20 years or so (longer if it's being grabbed a lot still)

Also one nzb site is usually enough, you don't need to check a bunch of different torrent sites since it's basically one massive one. I use prowlarr so I have it check nzbgeek for everything first and a bunch of torrent sites as backups in case it isn't there, but almost everything gets grabbed from usenet

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Hard to find scene releases are sometimes only available via usenet.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

While the paid tier for NZBGeek is a good deal, I also use DrunkenSlug, Miatrix, and NZB Finder since they sometimes have releases that are missing on NZBGeek. Tabula Rasa isn't bad either, although didn't seem to have anything missing from the other ones I use when I tried it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are these all paid services you’re mentioning?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

All of them have non-expiry free tiers (5 downloads a day each except Miatrix, which is two a day) except NZBGeek, which has a 3 day, 15 download trial. Of the recommended indexers with free tiers, DrunkenSlug and Tabula Rasa (as well as DogNZB and NinjaCentral) require invites to join. Each one has a premium tier that gives you more downloads for paying per month or per year, of which NZBGeek is among the cheaper options. Using usenet as a complement to what can be more easily found on public and private torrent trackers, I've found the free usenet indexer tiers to usually be enough. Another benefit of having accounts on multiple indexers is that as some releases may be indexed by one and not another, it can be helpful to search for releases on alternate indexers if your preferred one doesn't return any results.

Note that you'll also need also need to buy a usenet provider subscription or block plan to be able to download the indexed releases, as well as download a usenet binary newsreader such as SABnzbd or NZBGet. As having providers on at least two nodes mitigates the risk that a release is missing from either, I've found having a Frugal Usenet subscription plus a Newsdemon block plan to be a relatively low cost combination. Something to note when picking a usenet provider is retention, i.e. how many days worth of releases they have available. To download releases that are more than a few years old, you'll need a provider with that many days worth of retention.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I love the speeds of Usenet, but I feel like it's best to use it to tide you over while you work on getting into good private torrent trackers. Once you've got access to good private trackers, you don't have to pay anymore. (Except with storage, so I guess it depends on what you want and what capabilities you have.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem with private trackers that don't have open registration periods from time to time is that unless you have enough upload bandwidth it's nearly impossible to build ratio on torrent trackers unless you pay for a seedbox subscription. While TorrentLeech is great, it's still missing a lot, with only 25Mbps download bandwidth and 5Mbps upload bandwidth I can't reach the requirements one would need to apply to higher-tier trackers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's true that you have to be careful with your downloads. Whenever I join a new private trackers, I set up downloads to start getting bonus points, but I only set up automatic downloads for freeleech content. Once I have enough buffer, I'll open it up for all downloads.

This is after I fully fucked up my ratio on my first tracker. All my others ones look good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nzbgeek and miatrix both currently have a lifetime option also if you are not into the monthly thing doesn't look like any of the other public ones do. Nzb grabber did up until 9/2023. Nzbplanet also has the lifetime membership option.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Guys… you’re all breaking the first two rules of Usenet…

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let me guess…never talk about Usenet?…

And…don’t talk about your sources? 😕

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Don’t talk about Usenet.

and..

Don’t — talk — about — Usenet!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It depends on how you use it.

Real Debrid can be use in PLEX or stream. Download links can easily be found like rapidgator etc. Releases are faster too like rlsbb and hdencode.

Usenet you need multiple indexers to maximize your usage. Sometimes having one indexer is not enough.

Usenet will cost you more than Real Debrid. So, wait for black friday deals.