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[–] [email protected] 126 points 5 months ago (8 children)

I picked out all the quotes I found most salient:

  1. “Based on the behavior exhibited by the dog, believing the dog to be severely injured or infected with rabies, and as the officer feared being bitten and being infected with rabies, the SPD officer felt that his only option was to put the animal down,” a post on the City’s Facebook read.

  2. “UNACCEPTABLE!!!!! Sturgeon Police force is seriously a joke,” one user wrote.

  3. “This is a disgrace. The officer involved needs to be immediately removed from duty and charged with felony animal abuse."

  4. “I pray the owner sues the city, the mayor, the officer and the department. I will be filing a complaint with the State Attorney General’s Office. The entire city council should resign after hiring this man.”

  5. “What a disgusting and disappointing response to abuse of power and neglect of an animal,” wrote one person.

  6. “If it’s ‘within his authority’ to shoot a dog who is not a clear threat to anyone then no person or animal is safe in our town. I am so beyond disappointed in this city,” said another.

  7. “That dog was injured and confused, not rabid. He wasn’t even barking or being aggressive. He didn’t even yelp when the catch pole was put on him. I am just in shock over this.”

  8. “If your officers are that afraid of a little dog wandering around... maybe, just maybe, they shouldn’t be police officers.”

  9. "The officer was going strictly based off the fact that the dog walks with his head sideways due to him being deaf and blind," he said.

Officials, after just four days, determined the officer was not wrong in his actions.

[–] [email protected] 97 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As if the act of murdering someone's dog wasn't infuriating enough the city has to go and say the officer did nothing wrong when they very clearly and objectively did. I can't imagine the rage the owners must be feeling right now.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 5 months ago (2 children)

One of the most popular recent movie franchises is literally about a guy who goes on a murder rampage because someone killed his dog

Why the fuck did they think this would go over well.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 5 months ago

John Wick did a bunch of justifiable homicide.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

One of the most popular recent movie franchises is literally about a guy who goes on a murder rampage because someone killed his dog

Should have left Frodo's labradoodle alone!

[–] [email protected] 53 points 5 months ago

“If your officers are that afraid of a little dog wandering around… maybe, just maybe, they shouldn’t be police officers.”

THIS. Dogs are a fact of life in a community. If you can't handle being around them without losing your shit and thinking your life is in danger, you shouldn't be a cop. Doesn't matter if you're great at all the other cop stuff, you don't have what it takes to safely enter other people's property.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you get bitten by an animal you think has rabies (or an unknown mammal) go to a hospital lol. Police probably get treated for free.

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Unrelated to the incident, but I'm getting really fucking tired of articles using some unknown set of people posting online as justification for the conclusions of their articles. I don't give half a shit what someone posted on the departments facebook page. I give a shit about the incident at hand. Don't tell me how other people reacted online and expect me to do the same. Tell me what happened and let me come to my own conclusion.

Garbage article and garbage cop.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"The news used to tell me what happened, and I decided how that made me feel. Now the news tells me how to feel, and I have to decide if I believe what happened." -Someone in a meme

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 5 months ago

Amen to that. It's the same as articles saying there is widespread outrage about something, but its actually just a few angry tweets that they could scrape together.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

It's because journalistic integrity is dead. Whoever wrote this had a word quota, and just started reporting on Facebook comments until they reached it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 months ago

Love when half an article is "Comments on Reddit such as........" Do your fucking job journalists.

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This police department really gave a gun and a badge to someone who fears for his life encountering a 13-pound shih tsu.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

If the people that become US cops aren't already like that they break them to become like that during "training". I highly recommend looking up the shit they say and show during police training in the US, it's absolutely bonkers. They make them so scared of everything and fuck them up so badly that stuff like this is fully expected. So fucked up.

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Moved to the police force sometime after an excessive force lawsuit when he was a correctional officer.

https://casetext.com/case/pearson-v-woodson-3

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not surprised. There's all kinds of fucked up backstories like this once you start digging. There are very unhinged people out there who get warnings, get put on admin leave, maybe transferred. Very difficult to fire if local govt and unions are involved. And you bet your ass they protect each other because that means selfishly protecting themselves and the entire department.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

In the US a dog that works with the police has many protections legally.

In the US any other dog is merely property and the police kill them with impunity.

In the US when a police dog is euthanized there are lines of officers and police workers and first responders to show respect.

In the US any other dog is just leverage for the police to threaten.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 5 months ago

They don't even treat their own police dogs with respect. There's videos of cops yanking and choking them, body slamming them, etc. that that other stuff is just for show.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 5 months ago

There is no situation where calling the cops can't make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago

It's a fucking shihtzu, which are tiny. And this ones blind and deaf. Holy shit do we need drastic and violent police reform. Like fire 90% and completely retrain from the ground up. Not gonna happen though obviously.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 5 months ago

The Department of Justice estimates that American police officers shoot 10,000 pet dogs in the line of duty each year. It is impossible to ascertain a reliable number, however, because most law enforcement agencies do not maintain accurate records of animal killings. The tally may be substantially higher, and some suggest it could reach six figures.

https://scholars.unh.edu/unh_lr/vol17/iss1/18/

[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why was a cop even involved here? Doesn't animal control exist for situations like this? Yknow, like someone actually trained to handle animals instead of someone trained to behave like an animal?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I live in a decent size county, and our three animal control agents only works four hours a day six days a week and all calls go through 911. So if animal control aren't available, I could see 911 sending a cop...although he had an animal lasso, so maybe they do both jobs in that city.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

WTF????

I just watched the video. It's about 5:30 into the video. Everything leading up to him shooting the dog is not justified at all.

https://youtu.be/K_BRQKCmpCA?si=PLV2fynSKHAPpq-q

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Holy shit that just went from him being bad with the catch pole to shooting the dog with no provocation. He was following the dog around for a while being a little dog who didn't want to be caught. No growling, barking, or charging. Pretty sure that's completely incompatible with how rabid animals work. It was a silly dog just wandering around a field and wriggling out of a badly applied restraint. Then just switch over to blast the motherfucker.

Unreal that we succeeded at getting these maniacs to wear and use bodycams, the city watched the video, and they decided it was a good shoot. The was NOTHING to justify it, not even in a "people make bad decisions under stress" way.

You can see his shadow with the catch pole a few times. He's not even using two hands on it, which I believe means there was no way it could work. Hence why he couldn't restrain the dog despite being able to easily loop it over his head multiple times due to it being BLIND.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

I said "awwwww!" a split second before the shots were fired. The little guy could have easily been caught with the pole or picked up with bite gloves.

Plus, you can get a rabies shot immediately if it bites you.

This guy took five minutes before he decided the dog was simply wasting his time.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This was disturbing. If you're reading this and care enough remotely about animal life, don't watch this. Even though it's not the most graphic video I've ever seen, it was still disturbing to see how cold-blooded these people who are supposed to be our public servants are.

If you or I did what this officer did, we'd be facing charges.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Something that sticks out to me as someone who works in 911 dispatch (rest assured, I think my cops are bastards) is that I didn't even hear him key up to give his dispatcher a heads-up first (I don't want to give him the benefit of the doubt but it's possible he did and I missed it, I had my volume on pretty low)

Luckily we haven't had any cop shooting dog incidents in my county while I was working, and the small handful I've heard of that happened on other shifts have been justified cases where a dog actually attacked someone, but what we do get is a whole lot of injured deer or other critters that have been hit by a car and need to be put down, and our cops always key up beforehand to let us know before they do it, if only so we're prepared if 30 seconds later we get a call about shots fired in the area. Ignoring how inappropriate his actions were in shooting the dog, this was definitely a situation where there was no immediate danger and he could have taken an extra minute to radio his dispatcher to give them a heads-up and let them send a message to the calltakers "in case of shots fired calls in the area, officer dickbag is putting down a potentially rabid dog."

Of course this douchenozzle has no respect for life, he doesn't even have basic courtesy towards the people he works with or the people in the neighborhood who might be startled by hearing gunshots. People are understandably very relieved when they call in terrified that they just heard gunshots and we can confidently tell them "an officer just had to put down an injured deer a couple blocks away, so that's probably what you heard" and it saves us from having to enter a call for it that they then have to acknowledge.

Side-note, it's mind-blowing to me how many people just ignore what they think are gunshots. I work in a pretty diverse county that has a little bit of everything, but for the most part it's just various flavors of suburbia, not exactly the hood where shootings are an everyday thing or the sticks where every other neighbor is hunting or target shooting in their back yard, gunshots should trigger some alarm bells for most people. It's wild how many people will mention off-handedly that they thought they heard gunshots but didn't call for some reason, or they wait until way after the fact to call about it. Now I'm also pretty sure 90% of them are probably misidentifying what they heard (we get so many people calling in shots fired for fireworks, cars backfiring, doors slamming, etc. sometimes I can hear the fireworks in the background whistling, sizzling, and crackling in very un-gunshot ways while my caller swears up and down that they "know what gunshots sound like,") but even still, that's one of those cases where you should probably err on the side of caution. I'm personally very willing to ignore a lot of things, but if I think I hear gunshots somewhere I shouldn't be hearing them, I'm calling 911 immediately.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Regarding the side note, people will stop calling in when they are asked “are you sure it wasn’t fireworks” nearly everytime. It is discouraging. From personal experience.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I live in semi-rural suburbia, but honestly, there are so many different types of banging noises around here from people doing construction or repair work to cars running over temporary metal plates in the road that I wouldn't be able to tell you if one was someone target shooting in their back yard (or worse).

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 5 months ago

Police are like a box of chocolates.

(dark punchline)
They'll kill your dog.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 5 months ago (7 children)

When I first read this, I thought it said “police called to help shoot him dead” and I was like yeah, that’s why you would call the police, but why would you want him shot dead?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Hello, police? Yes, this is Kristi Noem. Yes, I have a dog that got lost, so could you find it and shoot it for me? Normally, I'd just shoot it myself before it got lost, but I was running late this morning. Thanks."

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

People who call the police think the police are there to help. They don't expect the police will kill dogs or keep parents away from school shooters.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 months ago (2 children)

"I thought it might have rabies" is a sentiment born out of fear and ignorance. Just like "the man was displaying unusual behavior" or "appeared to be on drugs"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 months ago

Well you don't become a cop by exhibiting a never-ending wealth of knowledge.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

Instead of hiring brave and smart people to be the police, it seems people who are not brave, and dumb, are hired so they have access to guns to protect themselves again whatever scares them, including innocent humans. Sad.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"Sprinkle some crack on him" - that cop probably

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Well he can't sprinkle fentanyl, because being within 50 feet of a particle of fentanyl makes cops pass out.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

He didn't comply with their orders.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, dogs go nuts for bacon so the cops may actually have been in danger.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 5 months ago

ACAB. Fuck these cops. Poor old puppy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago (4 children)

If I wanted to nail a nail slowly, I would grab a hammer. If I wanted it nailed fast and in a very shitty way with all sorts of metal fracture generating stresses, I would use a nail gun. But if I wanted it shot dead, I would call the cops because that's what cops do.

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