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National Park Service cracks down on Pride leaving LGBTQ+ rangers feeling betrayed (www.advocate.com)

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 5 months ago

On May 17, the National Park Service officially determined that park rangers and other employees cannot attend Pride festivities and parades in uniform. This decision reverses a long history of allowing such participation and even having official delegation in Pride parades across the United States. Anonymous LGBTQ+ employees report feeling betrayed and note that official Pride participation in major cities is uncertain as multiple parades finalize and applications to participate in parades remain unprocessed. The move comes amid increasing crackdowns on Pride flags and LGBTQ+ people nationwide. In most cases, Republican legislators and appointees have been behind such bans, but this time, it appears the National Park Service, led by a Biden-approved director, is restricting park participation in LGBTQ+ celebrations.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There are straight park rangers?

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised they allowed it at all. Usually any organization, public or private, will tell employees not to imply endorsement of anything not officially sponsored.

I'm also surprised that Stonewall is a national monument. Apparently it was an Obama decision, so I guess it was a fuck-you to hate.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Are they barred from veteran’s day and St. Patrick’s Day parades as well, or does the NPS participate in those? How about 4th of July?

Has this always been the case? If not, who was on the board that made the decision and what is their political affiliation?

In a world where half the electorate thinks a judge must be prejudiced and has no problem with their autocratic leader saying that ethnicity decides whether someone is “fair,” I think these are legitimate followup questions.

We needed a de-trumpification of the government. Anyone appointed by Trump or hired by an appointee should have been dismissed. This is basically what Trump is planning on doing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This comes from Frank Lands, who joined NPS in 2021. The director of NPS, Chuck Sams, was confirmed also in 2021. Both are from the Biden administration.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So by the sound of it, no one is being bared from participating, and the Pride events in the parks are not cancelled, though a bunch of approvals for participation in other events are waiting on a decision.

Just can't use the official NPS uniforms.

Ok. Fair enough.

Every NPS employee should get custom shirts that state clearly who they work for. Maybe even design them to look similar to the uniforms. March in those, and leave no question who you are. Then we'll see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 5 months ago (1 children)

A federal government organization is pulling back from openly supporting lgbtq+. It's a big fuck you to the community and a big deal. Somebody decided that supporting that community was a bad look and had the power to be a dick about it.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 months ago

That somebody is Charles "Chuck" Sam's the third, a Biden appointment and first native American to serve in the position.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 5 months ago

This is some bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fucking why

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago

Biden's national parks service director said no

[+] [email protected] -15 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Anonymous LGBTQ+ employees report feeling betrayed

I don't really see the problem. Don't go in your National Park Service uniform and you can participate. The organization doesn't want to get pulled into political disputes and isn't going to want their endorsement to be implied one way or the other. The employees in question aren't acting as spokesmen for the NPS (and if they were, then I can say that the restrictions they'd run into would be a lot more severe, like being told what they can and can't say).

Most people aren't going to be wearing uniforms anyway, because their jobs don't involve a uniform.

That's also not specific to the NPS or to Pride stuff. The military also has a lot of restrictions on what people can be doing politically when wearing uniform, because the military isn't supposed to be playing in politics. It works for the public, and the public makes the political calls.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Withdrawing support that's already been there in this organization is specific, actually. This wasn't a call made by the public, it was made by the people running the org. The decision itself is political. If you think the military isn't supposed to be political, you must have thought don't ask don't tell was complete BS, right? Or is it ok when it's politically conservative?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Especially at a time when LGBTQ+ people are currently being attacked by the terrorists within our own government passing laws preventing them from getting healthcare and being able to discuss their families.

[+] [email protected] -29 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I mean maybe quit fucking in the woods

yall might think i'm joking or being whateverist but there's a nice thicketed section of the waterfront in Toronto and there always people fucking in there. I used to bike past it on my commute, never saw any women going in. Thought it was just a nice path til I went in and was immediately propositioned. I mean I see the appeal of fucking outside but designated outdoor orgy zones are a little much

Even that's a little hysterical though to connect to the NPS being dickfighters I suppose.

edit: 34 little bitches who can not read, f, u, c, k, i, n, g! one in the bush, one in the tree, one on the bus right next to me

I didn't realise fucking in public was this popular IRL. It's probably not, but anyway, sorry everyone!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

What the fuck does a story you made up about people off of a path in Toronto have to do with park rangers in the US? Maybe stop being such a bigot.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh, does the NPS not do forests? i guess there can be no possible connection!

Oh, I get it, you want to go and I didn't tell you where. It's here! In the Frolicking Trails, i mean you can't make this shit up. Don't get me wrong I'd be down there every day if I didn't already have this other life, now you stop being obtuse and ornery, ya silly bitch.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

A connection to random people? Are you actually claiming that US park rangers are traveling to Toronto parks to touch your chest? WTF is wrong with you?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

I heard that they put their penises in your ears and sing Lady Gaga.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

Why Do All These Homosexuals Keep Sucking My Cock?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago

Interesting story that didn't happen outside of your imagination.