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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you want to be even more outraged by American stupidity, look up “rolling coal”. In short, morons buy large trucks like this and purposely detune their emissions systems to run poorly, decreasing fuel efficiency and spewing soot laden exhaust. The only purpose to do this is to piss off liberals, apparently.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

You're joking? Oh my,... you're not.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The best part (/s) is when they purposefully drive in front of people with a 'wimpy' car, like a hybrid or EV or a car that isn't fuckhuge, and intentionally spews smog behind them.

Very mature folk, very stable, very safe to be around, as I'm sure you can tell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Where I live, you get up to two years in jail for brake-checking someone, and a potentially life-altering fine if you cut off a pedestrian. Cops are extremely strict about cars endangering others because they're very easy charges. I'd love to see their reaction to rolling coal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone brake-checking in my country. It’s almost always videos from the US.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Probably because drivers' education in the USA is a fucking joke and licenses are handed out like candy. New drivers inherit the flaws and bad manners from their parents because they're not required to be trained by a certified instructor.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

No, it's because enforcement is a joke, not licensing.

One of the things that's hard for a European to understand is how shoddy and capricious law enforcement in North America can be. You know those lovely conditional speed limits that Germany has? No way that works in North America because the police won't do anything except sit in their interceptors on the last two days of they month doing speed traps.

Swerve, fail to signal, brake-check, basically drive like you're Bumblebee in Michael Bay's Transformers 2, that's fine. Just stay below the speed limit on the last two days of the month.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago

Where is the 2nd ammendment if you need it?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Most trucks are not this big, but some people definitely push the limits of useful or wise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

Most people in these comments act like we just have car lots full of trucks just like this ready to be sold to the regular consumer. Just a couple searches on the internet or simply reading other comments in this thread will tell you that we don’t. To get something like this you’re paying well over $100,000 and you would have to specifically ask to have this set up. That’s if they even do it at a factory. This could very well be aftermarket. Trucks this size are meant for commercial use and are purchased with just the cab and open frame. After the purchase they would be delivered to whatever facility needed to outfit it for its specific purpose whether it’s a tow truck, electric service, waste management. Etc. Just because 1 douchebag decided to kit one these out as an oversized pickup and some YouTuber decides to market like “biggest and baddest” is a good thing doesn’t mean that everyone here is doing it. Like calm down. Most of us don’t like it either.

Look at it this way. Technically this isn’t the biggest and baddest for any everyday citizen of any nation. You could have a semi with a sleeper cab. Something like that would be massive for the everyday person, and for everyday use it wouldn’t be bad, it would be horrendous!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago

The F650 is pretty much the last thing you buy before you need a proper semi/tractor truck. I have seen a few, and known someone with one; and they routinely use it for cash hauls to make a living. Paying LTL (less than truck load) rates are very expensive and slow compared to hiring a contractor to haul something you need in a timely manner. The guy I knew that owned one used it to make a living hauling farm and construction equipment long distances.

Most F650's that are produced will not have a bed, because they either get fitted with a flatbed or a cargo box.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

F150s are for the weekender dads that occasionally need to haul something around. F250s and 350s are for people that actually work (usually) this monstrosity is bullshit, anyone that genuinely needs that much truck buys an actual semi or something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Econoline (and maybe the Transit) seems to be the vehicle of choice for people who actually work.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Vans don't work for a lot of people that need a pick up bed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like steak and seats thirty five?

Canyonero!

12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tones of American Pride!

Canyonero!!!

https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA?si=Ly_7PhJ2IOzFXTDB

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

She blinds everybody with her super high beams,

She's a squirrel crushing, deer smacking, driving machine

Canyoneroooooooooo

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m 6’8” and I drive a Honda accord. I’m fat too. No excuse man

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 11 months ago

Maybe in Germany "good boy" can be said in earnest, but know that "good boy" in the US is typically condescending when referring to an adult.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can't buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They're uncommon to see, and when you do, they're invariably used to do actual work.

No, they're not used just to drive to McDonald's.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Thank you! I'm tired of people complaining "hur dur' big truck bad", without any other logical input.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I do get it. The market around the F150 (and similar trucks at other manufactures) is ridiculous. There's luxury trim levels in there that offer two tone leather, which does not seem like the sort of thing anyone who works with their truck would want.

It's just that once you jump up to the F250 or above, you're mostly dealing with people who actually use their truck for truck things.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is a really braindead and disingenuous take. The F650 is a commercial vehicle. Attempting to pretend that "Americans" drive these is moronic, because the number of private citizens who drive one of these as a personal vehicle is probably in the triple digits in a country with a population of 332,000,000.

I know it's fasionable to farm for upvotes these days by blaring AMERICANS BIG TRUCKS BAD. But no one is "driving these to McD's to get a McFlurry." Very, very few people own one of these just to be "decadent."

You may as well get on your high horse about Americans driving big rigs all the time while you're at it. Because they totally do!!!!! (It's true!) Ones who are truck drivers, you know, delivering the goods you rely on every day.

On the very outside edge of the graph, there are probably a few outliers who own one of these to tow something enormous: A big horse trailer or a box trailer with their airplane in it or something. I have never seen one of these on the road that wasn't an actual commercial vehicle like a tow truck or similar.

The problem with obviously ridiculous whinging like this is that it dilutes the actual useful message, which is that America's transportation infrastructure is fucked up, and our reliance on fossil fuels (not just trucks) is Too Damn High.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 11 months ago