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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The issue is that all of those apartments are owned by one person getting filthy fucking rich from rent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Then organise the renters, let them buy the house to transform it into syndicate or cooperative housing. Social apartment construction isn't impossible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Why not prefer apartments in your own town?

Noise. Neighbours being closer.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ownership. You will not own your apartment, it will be owned by your landlord and you will pay him whatever he demands. You will not own the forest, either. The state will, or some private entity will. No trespassing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can still own and buy appartements in most places in the world. Then there are many forms of social housing.

Rent to own is also a possibility but not seen in most countries.

Seems your problem is not ownership but landlords.

Some countries in Europe have the right to roam on any land. State owned and private owned. (Maybe more countries somewhere else have it to but I don't know)

It does not need to be so terrible. In some places it just is because of profits

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Owning an apartment and owning land are wildly different. The housing structure alone is not the entirety of home ownership.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since we're just talking hypotheticals anyway, let's say in the second image the land is actually owned by the owners of the apartments, like a co-op.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

That's still not ownership. That's co-ownership. I'm not free to do what I want with it, when I want.

Same reason I hate HOAs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Do you dare come say this here in Scandinavia please? FYI, you will suffer the date of Vigo the Carpathian, but I promis to erect a nice slab of stone for you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I spent seven years living in an apartment. I so enjoyed hearing the neighbors having sex, the thumping music they played, the smell of their cigarette smoke inside my apartment with all my windows closed, the random intrusions by management to repair something unrelated to my apartment, the random rent increases. Add this to the fact that I had no space for a work shop to make anything, and paying the equivalent of a mortgage with no equivalent home equity. Some people love apartment life, but it definitely was not for me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You can still have trees and plant life in low density housing. You don’t need green deserts everywhere.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah fuck lawns too, they aren’t meant to exist

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We can thank England for those damn things.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

We used to be a great nation... Invading... Murdering... Stealing... Imposing grass deserts... Now we have left the EU, are implementing government spyware and have no plans to make anything better...

I don't remember what my point was, but England is shit and I don't want to be here anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The one on the left has no communal space. The one on the right does.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't really care. As a lifelong apartment dweller; I hate people and want nothing to do with them. Get me a house far away from civilisation and I'll be happy. Communal space, my arsehole.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

This is the insanity of people who advocate for densified housing, IMO. I loathe apartments and attached dwellings. It's like a dystopian future where you can't own anything or have private space. If I never have to share a wall or floor with someone again, it will be too soon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yaay, space for 24 more apartment buildings!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

This is exactly what will happen. And a shopping mall and a shopping mall parking lot.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

A lot of people are pro-apartmemt before living in one, so here are some fun facts:

  1. Apartments usually have a maintenance cost, that covers as little as possible while still costing a lot. You never really own the flat, the building company does.

  2. You often have a communal garden; it's looked after by the lowest bidding contractor. Not all flats have balconies, so you are unlikely to have your own.

  3. Fear of fire and flooding - if someone else messes up, your stuff is toast/soaked. Insurance companies love that extra risk, it gives them an excuse to charge more.

  4. No flat has good sound proofing - the baby screaming downstairs at 5am and the thunder of the morbidly obese person upstairs going to the bathroom at 1am will denote your new sleep schedule (i.e. disturbed)

  5. I hope you're in for deliveries - apartments have no safe spots to leave things.

  6. You will not be able to afford a flat with the same floor space as a house. I'm sorry, welcome to your new coffin.

  7. Good luck drying your laundry (spoiler, your living room is going to have a laundry rack).

  8. Good luck owning a bike (it's either the bike or your laundry, take your pick).

  9. Vocal intimacy becomes a community event.

Living in a flat is a pile of little miseries grouped together.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Good luck to the apartment dwellers when the next wave of COVID hits.