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Pledges coming from proprietary software companies mean nothing

https://www.theverge.com/2024/5/15/24157496/microsoft-ai-carbon-footprint-greenhouse-gas-emissions-grow-climate-pledg

Get behind the community that is _really_ fighting to curb climate change:

https://eco.kde.org/get-involved

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#ecology #environment #emissions #microsoft

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[–] [email protected] 66 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Climate was only cool while you could buy fake carbon credits to make up lies about responsible computing at scale. Now we save the world with AI once again. Next year, compute on mars, true planetary scale! Cloud? We're doing Starsystem now!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Climate was only cool in the 1700's....

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

You forgot quantum! We're developing super duper plants that suck the carbon out of the atmosphere harder than a crack whore and make everything great for everyone (with money)!!!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

@gencha
Carbon credits weren't, and are not fake
They just never did anything.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

That sounds valid. I was thinking about the fact that most carbon credits are generated from deforestation reduction projects that renew yearly.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

pledges coming from any capitalist for-profit company mean nothing.

unless the pledge is cutting costs or making line go up or laying off a third of your employees.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Nois aqui ensinando essa turminha kkkk

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pledges coming from capitalists means nothing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

They just need "unless we can make more money in the short term by not doing it" appended to them. So, yes, they mean nothing.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Microsoft doing heavy greenwashing, what a surprise ! /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

But hey, they're still good, they have that green leaf in their windows settings. They're good, right?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

It's almost as though we need regulation.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The board of directors is obliged to maximize profits for the shareholders!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

It's not. It's obliged to work in the shareholders' interests. That can mean many things.

The board just chooses to take a narrow interpretation of those interests.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@[email protected] @[email protected] I'm legitimately getting annoyed by the widespread obsession with AI as it's not being used for the betterment of society. The original purpose of ChromeOS was to breath life into old laptops. That pledge comes from us all; slashing greenhouse gasses is done by using open-source OS's on older computers. Not new computers, but ones we already have.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Old vs. new hardware is difficult. New hardware can also do the same with lower energy consumption.

It’s impossible to calculate, but the tipping point would be where the saved energy surpasses the energy needed for producing and transporting the hardware.

I’m quite sure that my raspi4 is more powerful, smaller, less noisy and requires less energy than my oldest computer.

The thing is just that they rarely only improve the efficiency.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@[email protected] @[email protected] Pledges seem to be a trend as of recent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago