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[–] [email protected] 101 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Imagine you got a job offer in a state where dentists are illegal. I don’t expect to have any dental problems, but if it happens, wow it would suck to live there.

It’s almost like you’re missing some kind of essential form of medical care.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 6 months ago (1 children)

And to continue your analogy, some lawmakers in those states actively trying to prosecute you for obtaining dental care outside your state. Further, even general tooth hygiene, which doesn't require a dentist would be under attack. They would be bringing law suits for giving someone a toothbrush.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Craziest thing is that nobody will ever tell you why they want dental hygiene to be illegal. They will say something like, "My favorite series is Harry Potter. I never saw him brush his teeth." and you're just thinking, "What does your favorite book have to do with this? Also I'm pretty sure Harry brushes his teeth -- did you even read your favorite book??"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Not only that. Say someone punches your teeth in, they just tell you to accept having broken teeth for the rest of your life should you survive the potential infections first.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

teeth are liberal propaganda

do you have to clean any other bones?

stop supporting big teeth!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Imagine you got a job offer where health care is not a given. I don’t expect to have any health problems, but if it happens, and my insurance won't cover (all of) it, wow it would suck to live there.

It’s almost like you’re missing ~~some kind of essential form of~~ medical care.

There are some fields like computer science where the pay in the US has the potential to be much higher. But, it really has to be—and significantly so, imo—in order to make the reduction in or outright lack of guaranteed services something acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's not just the abortion ban, but the fact that an abortion ban could be passed that's also a problem. It shows the government is run by a bunch of religious busybody nutjobs who will pass anything they think is in the Bible.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Well said somewhat of a god.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 6 months ago

Yup, the youth and anyone educated. Why move if you or your partner can be prosecuted for a miscarriage that's not even in your control.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

My sister is working overseas. She wanted to move back close to her family, but when the Texas ban came down, she decided against it.

Her stated reason was that she wanted to have more kids and didn't feel safe getting pregnant in her home state.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Idaho is a great example of passing so many stupid ass laws that forced medical experts to leave. The pandemic pushed a lot of doctors and nurses out, and the whole abortion thing even more.

Now, they're spending a lot on helicopters to take critical patients out of state.

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/25/1246990306/more-emergency-flights-for-pregnant-patients--in-idaho

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago

What infuriates me about that article is that the Idaho AG is literally arguing that patients being airlifted to other states for emergency treatment simply didn't happen.

I'd love for the US AG to be able to call a handful of witnesses saying that they were airlifted for an emergency abortion and ask the Idaho AG. Are you saying my situation just never happened? Am I just a statistic to you? Or are you just pretending that I don't exist because it doesn't fit your narrative?

I know it won't happen because that's not how the SC works. But I'd still love to see it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Rural communities across the entire country are struggling to hire doctors. It turns out that smart young people just don't want to work in Jesusland for some strange reason.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

So what you're saying is that they're creating jobs? /s

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

"Your Honor, we need to ban abortion everywhere to solve this crisis. Young people are unwilling to work in conservative states where we cherish the life of the unborn, so we must even the playing field by banning abortion nationwide." -- The Republican party.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago

I would have thought any bar owner could have explained to conservative lawmakers the concept of "ladies night" where you work to make your establishment appealing for women in order to attract both women and men to increase business. Conservatives, by alienating women, they lose not only that amazing talent, but also a portion of men that want to make a life and find a mate in the state they are working in.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago

What's worse is that it's not evenly distributed across the set of young talent. The most capable, most impressive, most outstanding talent, is going to have the most options, and thus are most likely to go. It isn't just a halving of the upcoming workforce, it's a lessening of the average quality of that reduced force.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

Ah, one of the things that rural areas bitch about most, all the young people leaving the region ...

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (2 children)

These states do not think ahead. They are run by a bunch of self-centered assholes with super-determined and myopic focus on solely what they want, because they think it's what everyone should get. They also gladly skirt all these laws with their money and connections because they think it shouldn't apply to them.

The zenith of "do as I say, not as I do".

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Some of the states are very logical. For example, both Florida and Texas have deliberately and determinedly become red state hellholes because they want to drive out liberals and attract conservatives - because by doing that, they ensure that they retain all of Florida and Texas' electoral college votes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

These states do not think.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Good. F’ these medieval backwater states.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

During the eclipse in April we were considering Austin, but conflicted about spending money in TX.

We had planned out how to spend as little money and time there as needed to view it, but thankfully the weather closer to where we live was unseasonably clear and we had a great view in a much friendlier state, Maine!

Anyway, fuck Texas and the other backwards states who don’t respect women and all peoples’ rights to privacy and healthcare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Thanks for becoming a mainer! Love seeing my home state prosper and grow.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Enjoy the brain drain bible belt!

[–] [email protected] 27 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They do. It concentrates conservatives, which helps a declining political party stay relevant.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It infuriates me that a state like Wyoming or Alaska, where they have something like a twentieth of population of California, gets the same number of senators / same votes as my state (Cali). I understand why it happened this way (slavery), but it needs to change. Bumfuck rural people matter, but they shouldn't have an outsized vote.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That’s one of the main reasons that the US is classified as a flawed democracy. A vote in California has something like 1/200th the influence on federal policy as a vote in Wyoming or Alaska.

“The Senate was designed, as part of the separation of powers, to check the impulses of the House and the popular will.”(1)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"The Senate was designed, as part of the separation of powers, to check the impulses of the House and the popular will.”

And that is a worthy consideration, but how does this help?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I wonder which half that would be? 🤔