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[–] [email protected] 93 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is the only argument against lab-grown meat that it disrupts an existing industry? Because I’ve yet to hear a legitimate reason why this is a bad idea.

[–] [email protected] 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

they say bipartisan but the only democrat I see mentioned is fetterman. which does make me wonder about him more.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a member of @SenateAgDems

There you go. Agriculture lobby.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

John Fetterman continues: " and as some dude who would never serve that slop to my kids,"
More likely the kids will serve it to you? LOL

[–] [email protected] 27 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I've never been more disappointed in someone I voted for than Fetterman.

Which is saying something because they're all pretty disappointing.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It seems like his stroke really changed him, like personality wise. It's just a shot in the dark, but I wonder if it really did. I really liked him before.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The dude was always for shitty things like fracking. But he does seem to be worse everyday.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

I never should have trusted someone from York County

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Your other option that cycle would have been so much worse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

It's not a real election in America unless you're choosing between less worse and more worse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 months ago

If it makes you feel better I would likely have voted for him before to if I lived in the state.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Reduces cruelty, so of course they hate it.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It'll be competition with existing agricultural businesses. If you're a rancher, you don't want disruptive technology coming along and disrupting you out of business.

As things stand today -- and this has not been a constant over time, as their positions used to be reversed -- the Republicans are the "rural" party, and the Democrats the "urban" party, so special interests involved with farming are gonna generally find a voice with the Republican Party.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

So this issue is boiling down to a luddite-esque type of situation. Except this time it's the rich business owners getting pissed instead of poor textile workers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well sure, that's probably the real reason... But with how moustache-twirlingly evil these fuckers seem to delight in being these days, can you say for certain it's the only reason? 🧐

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

probably the real reason

That reason might be pretty significant as regards these laws, like the Florida one, holding up in court in that states have some constraints on what they can do to create protectionist laws that disrupt interstate trade.

Like, if you're a big beef-producing state, the beef producers can't say "okay, we're gonna block out-of-state competition and keep our state as a protected market against beef producers who operate in more-urban areas".

I commented the other day on the potential of a Dormant Commerce Clause case challenging them.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh, I was just being facetious for a laugh. I know these sorts of decisions are just functionally evil driven by financial motivations, rather than outright intentional malice for the sake of it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Reduces profits, so of course they hate it. Every doomed industry rushes to turn their products into the front line of a reactionary culture war.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

“It doesn’t even make sense to me why someone would want to eat that,” Balsick said. “For us as humans to think that we can make a product better than God can is interesting.”

Vs

Are nuggets made with lab-grown chicken a more questionable choice than, say, milk from a cow that’s been fed ground-up chicken waste, a common practice which experts say may be contributing to the spread of bird flu?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 4 months ago (3 children)

“For us as humans to think that we can make a product better than God can is interesting.”

And yet I bet this doorknob still eats bread, a product much better than the raw grain God provided us.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 months ago

All of us can do LOTS of things better than god. For starters, we’re visible. When someone asks us a question, we respond - and often in a clear, simple, unambiguous way, too. We can demonstrate our effect on the physical world. The list goes on.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

I was gonna say, has this clown never heard of cooking

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

I guess we’ll also ignore how different the animals we raise now are from what they were originally.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Journalists should know better than to conflate party names with liberal/conservative. Fetterman is a Democrat but he's conservative.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, the guy who was first to endorse Bernie in 2016, the guy who talked about M4A and all the progressive talking points… he’s a real conservative.

He’s an opportunistic guy, sure. I don’t think we can say what he actually believes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are many interesting questions surrounding cultured meat, but I’m mostly concerned with two of them.

  1. Is it any good?

  2. Is it reasonably priced?

There are lots of thought provoking discussions to be had, and I’ll be happy to read them, but the practical issues that impact me directly are the ones I care most about.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago

Its literally the same meat, but guaranteed no parasites and shit.

Not yet

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

What happened to free hand of market etc. God I hate hypocrites

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

According to Nature, the products begin with a small sample of animal cells, typically muscle cells, which are cultured in a controlled environment like a bioreactor. Provided with nutrients and a scaffold for support, these cells multiply and differentiate into muscle tissue over the course of several weeks.

Anyone know what the scaffold is made out of? The nature article is paywalled.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't know specifically, but here is an infographic of the different types

Infographic by the Good Food Institute of the different types of scaffolding used in lab grown meat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago