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Biden says dissent must not lead to disorder and his support for Israel remains unwavering amid college protests | CNN Politics (www.cnn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

"First, I must confess that over the last few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season."

MLK jr. on those who prefer order to justice, from the opening paragraph of Letter from a Birmingham Jail.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Biden: "I dare you to not vote for me".

I wish he would just stop taking AIPAC money already and stop enraging a significant portion of his voter base. I would very much like to avoid the local genocide that will happen if the conservatives seize control in 2025.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Go ahead, don't vote, see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Exactly. I'm definitely going to vote for Biden. But that doesn't mean I'm not pissed as hell about being coerced into voting for a genocide facilitator.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

That is a great way to get a rapist traitor in office again...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago

He's not going to be able to please everyone here. I wish politicians would be less afraid to take a hard line sometimes. Instead, it's calculated messaging that will fool the most people.

[+] [email protected] -8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Gordian knot. He doesn't want to be anti-free speech or anti-protest, but he also can't tolerate violence or bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

doing the right thing and a leader catching flak is supposed to be part of being a leader

if Biden would have done enough and not quartered assed everything and put the burden of everything on the citizens he would not even have to put effort in to win like any candidate

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

As much as the presidency does have sway in politics, we also have a house of representatives just literally not hearing bills, is on Speaker number 2, with threats of speaker number 3, and they can't even get the votes for new speakers, they literally cannot pass a bill about eliminating daylight savings time that has been sitting for nearly 3 years.

Like the presidency does have power but exercising overriding power is just going to open the door for the next republican president to take that power and just fucking run with it and destroy as much as they can.

I will agree there is a lot more Biden and his cabinet could have done in over the last 3 years but compared to the shitshow of the last guy, I'd rather take what we currently have over that cluster fuck.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There's a law on the books preventing the US from doing buisness with the countries that have been accused of what Israel has been accused of, all Biden needs to do is execute that law as written which is well within his power as Chief Executive of the Executive branch of government.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

First up, that's not what execution of laws means. In regards to the executive branch, execution means for formal signing of bills I to law, and has nothing to do with actual enforcement.

Secondly, if he were to "enforce" it, it would basically be a DOJ recommendation to conduct and investigation and present a case to the Judiciary, which is likely to be go nowhere considering the current state of the US courts system. And every one of those steps takes time to do and that process then has to be repeated for every company that is doing business with Israel.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

First up, that’s not what execution of laws means. In regards to the executive branch, execution means for formal signing of bills I to law, and has nothing to do with actual enforcement.

It's literally then job of the executive branch to enforce the law. Even cops are part of the executive branch, please cite a source that claims the executive branch of the government has nothing to do with enforcing the law.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/execution

My citation. I trust Cornell Law more than any random person on the internet and my point still stands that enforcement is still a lengthy process involving the DOJ building a case that still requires the Judiciary to actually make a ruling. And with how much of a cluster fuck the US courts system is, I don't have much faith that the process will end favorably, especially with a SCOTUS thar is so heavily in favor of business interests.

Biden can't just snap his fingers and punish a business for making dealings with Israel, that's a unilateral power the presidency does not have.

Read my whole comment, I outlined exactly what the president would have to do in that scenario instead of picking and choosing what you reply to.